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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Talking To Your Students About Smoking Reply with quote

Koreans seem to think nothing about smoking. They do it everywhere. I don't know about you, but just 15 minutes of breathing the air in a PC Bang really gets to me. I wish Korea would clean up its act in this department for its own health & well being.

In addition to teaching them English, I think teaching them about the health risks of smoking would have a lasting impact after you leave Korea. Do you talk to your students about this topic? No age group is too young for this topic I think.
Here's an interesting site; www.tobaccofacts.org
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The majority of Korean males seem to believe that cigarettes are an all-in-one air freshener, flavor enhancer, and aphrodesiac.

It will be chuckle-inducing in a few years to watch millions of them wonder why the hell they have lung cancer.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Talking To Your Students About Smoking Reply with quote

Dev wrote:
Koreans seem to think nothing about smoking. They do it everywhere. I don't know about you, but just 15 minutes of breathing the air in a PC Bang really gets to me. I wish Korea would clean up its act in this department for its own health & well being.

In addition to teaching them English, I think teaching them about the health risks of smoking would have a lasting impact after you leave Korea. Do you talk to your students about this topic? No age group is too young for this topic I think.
Here's an interesting site; www.tobaccofacts.org



most of my students are thoroughly grossed out by smoking, but as they get older, like 12,13 they start mimicking the smoking motion and blowing fake smoke rings.

clearly it's still 'cool' to smoke here, and judging by the fact that most of the 모기고추 fools here smoke like they're getting their picture taken - cigarette held firmly in teeth for that RUGGED, "don't f with me;" look - or big cloud of smoke with cig held in front of face for that pensive, classic humphrey bogart/60s sex symbol look... it's not going to stop anytime soon.



i just tell kids "if you smoke, you will die. you will get cancer (암) and die".

i think i just got a journal topic for today.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other day I was helping my grade 3 middle school student edit her speech about smoking, as I sat there looking into my pocket at a pack of Marlboro's, running my nicotine-stained fingers over the pages. It was called 'The Dangers of Teenagers Smoking' and started off expressing such grave concern that the % of teens smoking has gone up in recent years.

Gone up what - from 3 to 5%? In over a year on the job I've only seen one of my 500 or so students smoking and I pretended that I didn't because I didn't want to drag her to the staff room for a beating.

If they want to stop smoking in this country, ban it in the military, where 75% of Korean males learn to smoke. So long as every Korean male goes through an institution where almost everyone smokes every chance they get, not much will change.

Now, as I do after every Dave's post that comes up about smoking, I'm off to the smoke-pit so that I can start off teaching a nother pack of impressionable young minds smelling like an ashtray, he he he. Very Happy
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
It will be chuckle-inducing in a few years to watch millions of them wonder why the hell they have lung cancer.


Yeah, nothing screams hilarious more than lung cancer.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that the korean word for cigarette is also misleading...

to me, 담배! sounds like... "ole" or something, some triumphant call to arms or rousing party cheer.

if they changed the word to something like 촑맊차빠부비 i think the anti-smoking movement here would really go somewhere.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
i think that the korean word for cigarette is also misleading...

to me, 담배! sounds like... "ole" or something, some triumphant call to arms or rousing party cheer.

if they changed the word to something like 촑맊차빠부비 i think the anti-smoking movement here would really go somewhere.


That would make me chuckle. Then ALL the young boys would want them.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This afternoon I was going for a smoke break between classes right outside the front door of the school. It was slightly breezy and my lighter was flickering out, so I went right up against the glass door to light up my smoke. All of a sudden as I'm lighting it up a face pops up on the other side of the glass inches away from my face and it's my student from the speech contest - and she wants some more help with her speech on the dangers of teenagers smoking.

And this being Korea, no one sees any hypocrisy in that whatsoever...
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In addition to teaching them English, I think teaching them about...


Any other little moral lessons we should be sharing with our students?
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students give me a hard time about smoking. If ever they catch me outside smoking, the next class of theirs I enter everyone is giving me their best evil eye attempts. Tight lips, furrowed brows, contrived posture..

They scold me for my nasty habit, at which point I take a vote and 70% of them raise their hands. You know what the question is.
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I run out of smokes, I can always bum a couple from the elementary school girls in my class.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Any other little moral lessons we should be sharing with our students?


Good point ya ta....

You were hired to teach English...not Ethics and morals correct?

Mind you, a discussion group thing with adult students where people have to discuss smoking could yield good results from a pedagogical standpoint.

However, leave the civics lesson at home I think.

I know for sure that when I took Korean classes the last thing I would have wanted is my teacher starting to teach me about moral or health issues.....

If you are a certified teacher and your curriculum includes civics well then go ahead!

If not, leave your smoking topic for outside of class with your friends....
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a sign in my uni that says "Reconsider your non-smoking". Doesn't this mean if you DON'T smoke, you should reconsider?? Laughing

(Acutally, the clinic gives free patches for those trying to quit!)
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
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Any other little moral lessons we should be sharing with our students?


Good point ya ta....

You were hired to teach English...not Ethics and morals correct?

Mind you, a discussion group thing with adult students where people have to discuss smoking could yield good results from a pedagogical standpoint.

However, leave the civics lesson at home I think.

I know for sure that when I took Korean classes the last thing I would have wanted is my teacher starting to teach me about moral or health issues.....

If you are a certified teacher and your curriculum includes civics well then go ahead!

If not, leave your smoking topic for outside of class with your friends....


or, if you care about your students and maybe want them to question one or two of the things in their confucian, regimented and look-to-authority-and outdated-tradition-before-i-think-of-myself-and-common-sense society... a society that shows signs of drastic change in the near future - why not try and mold that change a little bit?

are you browbeating moral and ethical issues if you tell students that you care about "SMOKING WILL KILL YOU"? no. you're not. are you acting outside of your station? no you're not.

my students are thinking about it, since it prompted discussion from my classes at all levels today. grade 1, grade 3, grade 7... it's on their mind, so why not pick it up and help them develop their thoughts a little? certainly their chain-smoking, don't-give-a-*beep* dads aren't helping much.

smoking is one of the stupidest things a human can do. this is scientific fact. why not warn a few kids about it, especially if you give a damn?

one thing in my job description - it's even in my contract - is to teach english AND WESTERN CULTURE to my students. so... here's one thing i'm imparting upon the little mewling bastards who will probably start smoking anyways when they're in the army and don't have the balls to say "actually, no that shit is gross".

i also let them listen to slayer.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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In addition to teaching them English, I think teaching them about...


Any other little moral lessons we should be sharing with our students?


Since when is smoking a moral issue? It's a health issue. Don't twist the facts!
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