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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Atassi wrote: |
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When I was at school it was common for the disruptive, problem kids to be put in classes with FOB immigrant kids who were still learning English.
It's not a very good policy. |
You are implying maybe that the teachers at your school didn't care much about the immigrant kids they had, to lump them together with other undesirables. What you said does not represent all teachers.
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He also said it wasn't a good idea.[/quote] |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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It seems the Guardian picked the story up from the Daily Mail. Am I to assume from your comments that, until a story from the Daily Mail is picked up by another news source, it is not credible? Or is it "cherry-picking" what is or is not accepted depending on whether it agrees or disagrees with a certain world view - whatever it happens to be. If the Daily Mail is rubbish (I don't know one way or the other), then the accuracy of the reports regarding the General's comments are to be doubted since they originated from the Daily Mail, aren't they?
Yes, yes, I know the comments have been verified, blah, blah, blah. My point is the willingness to take a report from a certain news source at face value in one case and not in another.
I am not flaming, just confused. |
The Daily Mail is basically a tabloid dressed up as a 'thoughtful' newspaper. It's aimed at what's known as 'middle England.' It tends to have a holier than thou attitude and pretends to be on this or that moral crusade, always banging a drum about something or other, generally proposing very simplistic solutions for complex social problems. You know the score. Like The Sun it's known for 'selecting' the facts and skewing the story to support its cause (as all papers do to some extent). It's not the best, it's not the worst. |
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Atassi
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: 평택
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Atassi wrote: |
| Neil wrote: |
When I was at school it was common for the disruptive, problem kids to be put in classes with FOB immigrant kids who were still learning English.
It's not a very good policy. |
You are implying maybe that the teachers at your school didn't care much about the immigrant kids they had, to lump them together with other undesirables. What you said does not represent all teachers.
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He also said it wasn't a good idea. |
I know that. But he used his own unique experience with it to paint it all bad. I think I was clear enough in what I said. The policy can be carried out in many ways. Its benefits can be huge.
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| I instead would rather focus on in what way of doing so would be the most effective for the kids. |
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