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chilgok007
Joined: 28 May 2006 Location: Chilgok
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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A 6 year old student had a seizure in my class today. It happened right after lunch. The kid is a pretty slow eater, so I wasn't too worried when he was escorted late back to my class by the new secretary. She opened the door, and the first thing I noticed was a huge wad of rice still in his mouth. He broke into a sudden coughing fit and then collapsed face first onto the ground. Now, a lot of students at the school think it's funny to collapse onto the floor upon entering a classroom, so I assumed he was joking aroung. I ordered him off the floor. He made no sound, so I turned him over. His eyes were closed and the area around his lips was turning slightly bluish-green. The rest of his face was pale and pasty. I had the gut-wretching feeling that something was terribly wrong. I immediately thought he was choking because of the rice in him mouth. The new secretary (stupidly) turned him over on his back and began calling his name. No response. I ran out to tell the other secretary to call 119, but rather then doing so, she got up to come gawk at the situation. Meanwhile, my co-worker, who happened to have been a medical orderly for several years before coming out here, came out to see the commotion. He knelt down and noticed the kids jaw was locked, a sign of a seziure. He limbs were also rigid. There was quite a commotion astir by now. I ordered my students to evacuate the room, all of them asking "is X dead?" My coworker and I kept begging the management to call 119 and get the kid to a hospital ASAP. They shrugged it off and kept saying he was going to be ok. They kept telling us to just go and "control our classes." After a tense 5 or so minutes the student came to, looking really dazed and not speaking. Then he started to cry. Still, instead of calling the hospital, the student's parents were called. They moved the now semi-alert student to the lobby. The mother came about half an hour later and took him, but apparently not to the hospital.
We later learned the student in question had another seizure in the morning before school, yet the parents just sent him off. The mother said he had been taking 한악 because the parents felt his size was "too small," so they got him some meds to help the 6-year old boost his size. Apparently, the medicine was "too strong for him." And apparently, an otherwise normal, perfectly healthy six-year old having two sezures in one day is not enough to warrent enough alarm to have the kid checked out by a docter. Word on the street is that the student will be returning to class tommorow.
Here are some other medical mishaps that have occured at my school during my short tenure.
-I had a class of three students, which was odd because there were several other classes with open seats that the students could have joined. I thought they were just trying to make my life miserable until I mentioned the unusual circumstances to a former teacher. What had happened was the class had originally been ten students, but one day, while horseing around, one little girl in the class "hurt" her arm. Despite the fact that she was full-on hysterical, the boss sent her back into class and yelled at her for making a scene. They didn't even bother to call the parents. Well, as it turns out, the girls "hurt" arm was actually a broken arm. 14 irate parents pulled 7 students from the school, leaving the remaing three.
-A student bit another student's nipple during a classtime fight (not my class), requiring some stiches. No disciplinary actions were taken other than a stern talking-to. Neither parent pulled their student from the school.
-A student running in the hallway during breaktime turned a sharp corner, smashing his tooth right out of it's socket on another kid's forehead. The former requiring hosptial attention. Neither parent pulled their student from the school.
-A student was beat up on the school bus for having features that another student considered "too western." The kid had two black eyes and a broken nose. A lot of student's witnessed the fight, as did the bus driver who apparently did nothing to stop it. No disciplinary actions were taken other than a stern talking-to. Neither parent pulled their student from the school.
-A student threw a toy at another kid in a fight resulting a 6-stiches-requiring gash on his forehead. No disciplinary actions were taken other than a stern talking-to. Neither parent pulled their student from the school.
Anybody got any similair stories to share?
By the way, I don't work at a hakwon. I work at a soap opera.
Edit: spelling and grammar errors.
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: Re: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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This sounds more like the crap going on back home than here. |
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chilgok007
Joined: 28 May 2006 Location: Chilgok
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: Re: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
This sounds more like the crap going on back home than here. |
Sorry, but do you mean the stuff going on back at the student's homes or back in the Western world? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: Re: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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chilgok007 wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
This sounds more like the crap going on back home than here. |
Sorry, but do you mean the stuff going on back at the student's homes or back in the Western world? |
Sorry, the Western world with lack of any discipline whatsoever nowadays SOrry, should have clarified that. But yes, hagwons are notorious for lack of discipline, as they are paying customers. Hagwon wangjangnims are also notorious for not planning anything past their next step and don't realize people may take their kids out of the hagwon when they get hurt by others... |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Korean elementary schools are much worse than the U.S. The school I'm at is chaotic and it's surprising how few teachers are around to watch the kids. So to say that Korean schools are more disciplined is a joke. |
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chilgok007
Joined: 28 May 2006 Location: Chilgok
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: Re: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
chilgok007 wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
This sounds more like the crap going on back home than here. |
Sorry, but do you mean the stuff going on back at the student's homes or back in the Western world? |
Sorry, the Western world with lack of any discipline whatsoever nowadays SOrry, should have clarified that. But yes, hagwons are notorious for lack of discipline, as they are paying customers. Hagwon wangjangnims are also notorious for not planning anything past their next step and don't realize people may take their kids out of the hagwon when they get hurt by others... |
Haha, yeah, it does seem like that. Awhile back, I posted a story about two kids who brought B.B. guns to class. Sometimes this job does have a bit of an "inner-city" feel to it. But, certainly these incidents are more of a freak occurance than anything else. Afterall, I'm teaching in suburban Korean, not Compton (I wish there was a "relieved" emoticon to put here).
It's definitly everybody's problem (like the old cliche: "it takes a village to raise a child," or something along those lines). First and foremost are the parents who, in a lot of cases, seem like they can't even be bothered to properly raise their children. It's like: "We're both busy working 9 to 9 in our Chaebol jobs and we're just relieved that we can have a place to dump little Younghee and Chulsu for a few hours a day." I know it's really important in Korean culture to have kids and all, but sometimes the modern world and the traditional mindset just aren't that compatible. If your out busy working all day, partying with your co-workers all night and leaving yourself almost no time to tend to your children, you probably shouldn't be having kids in the first place. I've seen way too many kids out here who recieve too little parental attention and are raised by surrogates (like grandparents, uncles, paid help etc). In most cases, these kids aren't all right.
Second, are the Wongjangnims who, as you already mentioned, are too concerned with the dollars and cents and with their precious "image" to take effective action.
And last but not least, comes the teaching staff (Foreign and Korean) for not always being that attentive. At my school we definitly try our best to keep an eye out for the kids, but we're all extremly busy and don't always have the time (blame the Wangjangnims... ) . And in the few moments when we do have a few spare moments, well, at the risk of sounding selfish, we do like to tend to ourselves and relax for a few. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Medical Emergencies in the Classroom |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
chilgok007 wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
This sounds more like the crap going on back home than here. |
Sorry, but do you mean the stuff going on back at the student's homes or back in the Western world? |
Sorry, the Western world with lack of any discipline whatsoever nowadays :) SOrry, should have clarified that. But yes, hagwons are notorious for lack of discipline, as they are paying customers. Hagwon wangjangnims are also notorious for not planning anything past their next step and don't realize people may take their kids out of the hagwon when they get hurt by others... |
Fredericton, N.B, was something else, eh. It was for me, too, when I was accepted at U.N.B. as a Transfer Student from Dullhousie in Fall, 1994.
Gee, driving up from Centreville to visit my bud from Stanley, we eventually did the town to check it out and met a certain Professor Hunt who wanted to rent an apart-uh to me - sans Fire Escape.
What a load: He threw me out of his place when I asked him to include one in the deal.
Turned out, he was a Yank who escaped to a more liberal Canada.
Imagine.
Anyway, that trendy Main Street got some rowdy around ten o'clock. You'd think you were in Anywhere Else, Canada.
Nah, just kidding. Fredericton is like the rest of Canada: Problem-less.
Sign me up as The New Troll on This Board. |
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HamuHamu
Joined: 01 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: |
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I guess the most horrible part of your story is that I CAN believe the way the staff behaved during the seizure.
For some reason the front desk staff always seem to act that way, no matter what the situation. We had a fire at my academy, fortunately it was after classes finished and there was only one student there, but all of the Korean teachers went into the staff room to change out of their uniforms and into their "street wear" before they would exit the building. Then they stood and waited for the elevator. When I went to take the kid down the stairs, I got told "No, he is too young to walk down so many stairs, he needs to take the elevator!" I said I would carry him (he was 4) and they looked at me like I was an idiot.
When we got to the first floor (me down first, from the stairwell, them choking through a cloud of smoke when the elevator door opened), they tried to insist that I leave the student at the cafe on the first floor of the building, because it was very lightly raining outside and the mother would be mad if her son was outside in the rain. The smoke inthe hallways was filling the cafe everytime the cafe door opened (several other people also felt that it was wise to wait in the cafe, apparently). I carried him to a covered awning of the building next door and waited there for the all-clear.
At one point, while the firemen are still on ladders putting out the fire, which was on our floor, the hagwan director remembers that she forgot to activate the voice mail on the phone system, and she pushes through the fire crew and gets in their way as she takes the elevator back upstairs to check the phone. She must have stopped in the school kitchen as well, because she came out with a plate of fruit that she cut up while she was inside and passed it around to us -- and, get this, the firemen!! Like, they are putting out an fire in the building, and she interrupts them to offer them PEARS!
THe whole thing was just so bizarre and horrifying. I truly do not think that there is any sort of "accident and emergency training" given to anyone, and most Koreans really do not stop to think critically during an urgent situation. |
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chilgok007
Joined: 28 May 2006 Location: Chilgok
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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HamuHamu wrote: |
I guess the most horrible part of your story is that I CAN believe the way the staff behaved during the seizure.
For some reason the front desk staff always seem to act that way, no matter what the situation. We had a fire at my academy, fortunately it was after classes finished and there was only one student there, but all of the Korean teachers went into the staff room to change out of their uniforms and into their "street wear" before they would exit the building. Then they stood and waited for the elevator. When I went to take the kid down the stairs, I got told "No, he is too young to walk down so many stairs, he needs to take the elevator!" I said I would carry him (he was 4) and they looked at me like I was an idiot.
When we got to the first floor (me down first, from the stairwell, them choking through a cloud of smoke when the elevator door opened), they tried to insist that I leave the student at the cafe on the first floor of the building, because it was very lightly raining outside and the mother would be mad if her son was outside in the rain. The smoke inthe hallways was filling the cafe everytime the cafe door opened (several other people also felt that it was wise to wait in the cafe, apparently). I carried him to a covered awning of the building next door and waited there for the all-clear.
At one point, while the firemen are still on ladders putting out the fire, which was on our floor, the hagwan director remembers that she forgot to activate the voice mail on the phone system, and she pushes through the fire crew and gets in their way as she takes the elevator back upstairs to check the phone. She must have stopped in the school kitchen as well, because she came out with a plate of fruit that she cut up while she was inside and passed it around to us -- and, get this, the firemen!! Like, they are putting out an fire in the building, and she interrupts them to offer them PEARS!
THe whole thing was just so bizarre and horrifying. I truly do not think that there is any sort of "accident and emergency training" given to anyone, and most Koreans really do not stop to think critically during an urgent situation. |
I gotta hand it to your director: that was really nice of her to put her life on the line so your stomachs wouldn't go unsettled. I guess all I can say is: "only in Korea..."
We actually had a fire emergency too. The building next to ours is under construction and someone dropped a cigarette setting some tarps that draped the side of the building on fire. We had just returned from a field trip, so no one besides the director and secretaries were in the building at the time, but our building was filling with smoke. We were sent to the park to teach our classes and then called back to the smoke-filled school an hour later, where we proceeded to teach our remaining classes. It wasn't too bad as only some of the rooms smelled offensive. But it got all of us FTs thinking what the heck we'd do if there was an actual emergency in our building. Our school has no fire-fighting equipment (save a small hand-held extinguisher in the kitchen) and no smoke detecters. Back home we'd have fire drills in school once every few months. We raised the issue with our head teacher and she was totally bewildered: "what is this mystical fire drill you speak of?" As though the danger from a fire was as remote as the danger from an Iraqi WMD attack. We'd have to evacuate 150 panicking small children without any procedures for evacuation or for verifying that they all made it out safely, nor do we have any designated "meeting spot" outside the school. We do, however, have a "Decending Life Line (왕강기)" in one of our rooms (we're on the fourth floor) which looks more like a repelling device than a ladder and which I wouldn't know how to use to save my own life, let alone a 4 year old's.
P.S. why are people always trying to troll my posts???? |
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HamuHamu
Joined: 01 May 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: |
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chilgok007 wrote: |
We do, however, have a "Decending Life Line (왕강기)" in one of our rooms (we're on the fourth floor) which looks more like a repelling device than a ladder and which I wouldn't know how to use to save my own life, let alone a 4 year old's. |
Doesn't matter, they'll use the elevator! |
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Lizara

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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HamuHamu wrote: |
At one point, while the firemen are still on ladders putting out the fire, which was on our floor, the hagwan director remembers that she forgot to activate the voice mail on the phone system, and she pushes through the fire crew and gets in their way as she takes the elevator back upstairs to check the phone. She must have stopped in the school kitchen as well, because she came out with a plate of fruit that she cut up while she was inside and passed it around to us -- and, get this, the firemen!! Like, they are putting out an fire in the building, and she interrupts them to offer them PEARS!
THe whole thing was just so bizarre and horrifying. I truly do not think that there is any sort of "accident and emergency training" given to anyone, and most Koreans really do not stop to think critically during an urgent situation. |
That is absolutely classic. What a thoughtful director you have. |
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