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Can you protect against the falling Won in your contract?
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heeheehee



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Can you protect against the falling Won in your contract? Reply with quote

In the midst of some rumors that the South Korean Won may fall because of the North's actions, is it possible when discussing a contract to insert a clause that will cover your income in the event of a falling Won?

I'm thinking something that would maintain some kind of pairity with a more stable currency so that when time comes to convert all those saved Wons into Western currency a lesser-valued Won does not end up hurting the exchange.

Or is this really not all that important, since we're talking only very small changes?

Thanks!
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt any hogwan owner would do this. I guess if you really want to try it, you could though.

Howver, I really don't think the won is going to all of a sudden take a big drop. Only if something really serious happens with NK and a falling won would be the least of my worries at that point.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't understand why any hagwon owner would care about that. The value of the money doesn't really change within Korea. What if the Korean won gets really strong? Would you put something in your contract about getting a pay cut?
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see any hurt in asking and trying. Besides, hagwons do some stupid **** with our contracts anyway.

If they are really deseparate and you are about to re-sign with them, then you could ask. Who knows, you may actually get it.

Mod Edit: Edited for language.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrm. Trading hagwon contracts in a futures based market?
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taejonguy



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I sign a new contract during the "IMF Crisis" I asked to be paid in US dollars. They didn't have any problem with this.

You never know unless you ask...
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would be easier to negotiate a contract in the currency of your preference than to add in a clause to protect you in the case of falling exchange rates, but that sword cuts both ways. I have a contract that pays me in US dollars (on payday, my salary is USD is multiplied by the exchange rate)...trouble is, I agreed (happily) to these terms back when the exchange was around 1200 won to the dollar...which means, the strong won HURT my earnings...significantly...I renegotiated when my contract expired.... It IS possible to get contracts specifying amounts in other currencies...just realize that things may shift, and you may wish you never bothered to change things in the first place.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The won will bounce back.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Hrm. Trading hagwon contracts in a futures based market?


You can trade won futures. In W125,000,000 chunks.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I just don't understand why any hagwon owner would care about that. The value of the money doesn't really change within Korea. What if the Korean won gets really strong? Would you put something in your contract about getting a pay cut?


Precisely.

When you accept a job in a foreign country and are paid in local currency the exchange rate is not the responsiblity of your employer.

You choose to accept the job and hence the fluctuations in currency exchange.

If you want to avoid this stay home or try and find international jobs that pay in say US currency.

Good luck.
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say there is a little skirmish, things quiet down after a bit...let's also say the won takes a dive during this time.

1. How long before it bounces back?

2. How long can most people afford to wait?

Your opinion matters, thanks in advance.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the won takes a plunge, it's likely because we're being invaded. Your salary is the least of your worries.

just get some side lessons lined up, you tool.


Korea does have inflation though, despite a couple of earlier posts. I've seen it already.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1. How long before it bounces back?

2. How long can most people afford to wait?


Based on the crisis in 1997.....

1- It took a few months but it bounced back to an acceptable rate by the time my first contract was done.

2- Depends on their financial obligations back home (loan payments).

If you have none then you can wait a long time as the devaluation does not affect you. You live in Korea, your expenses are in Won and you are paid in Won.

If you have massive obligations then you will feel the heat and your waiting period will depend on how financially strong you are.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I just don't understand why any hagwon owner would care about that. The value of the money doesn't really change within Korea. What if the Korean won gets really strong? Would you put something in your contract about getting a pay cut?



Let me guess-economics and finance are NOT required to get a degree in Canada?

The value of money ALWAYS affects buying power, and hogwan owners feel the effect, too.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following the financial crash in '97 some people arranged through contract negotiations to be paid in a currency other than Won. Of the few people who did this that I ran into, none said they had a problem arranging it.

I feel that it took about 8 years for the Won to recover its former position. The economy recovered much much faster, but the government wanted to maintain a weak Won for stimulation of exports. It really irked me.
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