| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
|
 Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Korea Times: How not to be a language imperialist |
 |
|
Jesus Tapdancing Christ, this guy's a retard.
| Quote: |
The teacher in South Korea should study Confucianism. That is, if he would truly educate. For education is about teaching people to be their best. In the context of South Korea, that means helping people realize the Confucian ideal. The foreigner here who is ignorant of Confucianism is doomed to indoctrinate into his own point of view; to facilitate his students� loss, of themselves and of their souls, to Western utilitarian values.
To avoid the resentment of many Koreans against English, which they understandably see as a form of Western imperialism, the English teacher�s imperative is to read the Confucian classics: The Great Learning, The Doctrine of the Mean, The Confucian Analects, and The Works of Mencius, especially James Legge�s English translation. The Confucian Analects, at the very least, is the point of departure for meaningful engagement with South Korea.
|
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/opinion/200610/kt2006101920422154060.htm |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Um...seems like he is suggesting that foreign teachers should try to understand the philosophy underlying behavior in Korea...the fact that students may not be AWARE that their attitudes are shaped by Confucianism doesn't really matter. Ask a student about the teachings of Confucius and you may get blank stares, but start discussing the appropriate behavior in many situations and they will give answers that mirror those teachings. It helps a teacher to be effective if he or she understands his or her students...Confucianism is pretty foreign to many westerners (who have internalized the Socratic method of teaching and learning without realizing it, which can be at odds with the Confucian attitudes displayed by many students). Reading a few books about a major cultural/philosophical/moral influence seems like a good idea...using that knowledge to more effectively communicate your ideas to your students seems like an even better idea.
Retard? Naw...you just don't like some of the words that he chose to use in order to show how emphatically he believes in his message. The diction in the article is a bit...melodramatic? I will grant that, but the message is definitely valid...solid advice. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| thegadfly wrote: |
Um...seems like he is suggesting that foreign teachers should try to understand the philosophy underlying behavior in Korea...the fact that students may not be AWARE that their attitudes are shaped by Confucianism doesn't really matter. Ask a student about the teachings of Confucius and you may get blank stares, but start discussing the appropriate behavior in many situations and they will give answers that mirror those teachings. It helps a teacher to be effective if he or she understands his or her students...Confucianism is pretty foreign to many westerners (who have internalized the Socratic method of teaching and learning without realizing it, which can be at odds with the Confucian attitudes displayed by many students). Reading a few books about a major cultural/philosophical/moral influence seems like a good idea...using that knowledge to more effectively communicate your ideas to your students seems like an even better idea.
Retard? Naw...you just don't like some of the words that he chose to use in order to show how emphatically he believes in his message. The diction in the article is a bit...melodramatic? I will grant that, but the message is definitely valid...solid advice. |
Naw. The guy's a twit. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
| The writer might try convincing (former president) Kim Dae-Jung that Confucianism ought to stay in Korea. The prez was all for dumping it. It was never clear just how much he wanted to toss out, but he was open about reducing Confucian influence. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| the_beaver wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
Um...seems like he is suggesting that foreign teachers should try to understand the philosophy underlying behavior in Korea...the fact that students may not be AWARE that their attitudes are shaped by Confucianism doesn't really matter. Ask a student about the teachings of Confucius and you may get blank stares, but start discussing the appropriate behavior in many situations and they will give answers that mirror those teachings. It helps a teacher to be effective if he or she understands his or her students...Confucianism is pretty foreign to many westerners (who have internalized the Socratic method of teaching and learning without realizing it, which can be at odds with the Confucian attitudes displayed by many students). Reading a few books about a major cultural/philosophical/moral influence seems like a good idea...using that knowledge to more effectively communicate your ideas to your students seems like an even better idea.
Retard? Naw...you just don't like some of the words that he chose to use in order to show how emphatically he believes in his message. The diction in the article is a bit...melodramatic? I will grant that, but the message is definitely valid...solid advice. |
Naw. The guy's a twit. |
Agreed. Will we slap immigrants with Plato's The Republic, Voltaire, Dante, Dylan, and Lennon and McCartney at JFK and Vancouver International, on the same principle that those works are "the point of departure for meaningful engagement with North America"?
If they fail the follow-up test, back on the plane. Shoo. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| can we do that for natives too? If you don't read up, onto the plane. shoo! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I do a pretty good job of trying to understand how things work here, but Confucianism causes more harm than help. Confucianism is not the way to cultural understanding. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
| sig line fodder. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
| the_beaver wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
Um...seems like he is suggesting that foreign teachers should try to understand the philosophy underlying behavior in Korea...the fact that students may not be AWARE that their attitudes are shaped by Confucianism doesn't really matter. Ask a student about the teachings of Confucius and you may get blank stares, but start discussing the appropriate behavior in many situations and they will give answers that mirror those teachings. It helps a teacher to be effective if he or she understands his or her students...Confucianism is pretty foreign to many westerners (who have internalized the Socratic method of teaching and learning without realizing it, which can be at odds with the Confucian attitudes displayed by many students). Reading a few books about a major cultural/philosophical/moral influence seems like a good idea...using that knowledge to more effectively communicate your ideas to your students seems like an even better idea.
Retard? Naw...you just don't like some of the words that he chose to use in order to show how emphatically he believes in his message. The diction in the article is a bit...melodramatic? I will grant that, but the message is definitely valid...solid advice. |
Naw. The guy's a twit. |
substitute an "a" for the i in your last word and you would be more accurate. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
|
| Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
|
|
I think incoming teachers should read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations
...while listening to Lee Hyori at high volumes. |
|
| Back to top |
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
