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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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 Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: correct me if i am wrong |
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i have heard a few people claim that they are getting internet speeds of 100mb/s, now as far as i am aware this is impossible, the 100mb/s is not your internet speed but the speed at which your computer is exchanging information to your modem right?
If you go to internet connections and then lan high speed connections that will always be 100mb/s? whereas if you do a speed test or say your max torrent download speed would be a good indication of your download speed and upload speed.
For example the fastest global (by global i mean the sum of multiple torrents) download speed i can get is around 320kb/s with the highest upload without effecting download is 70kb/s. I am on a very cheap connection
If anybody knows more, info would be great. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: correct me if i am wrong |
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| blackjack wrote: |
i have heard a few people claim that they are getting internet speeds of 100mb/s, now as far as i am aware this is impossible, the 100mb/s is not your internet speed but the speed at which your computer is exchanging information to your modem right?
If you go to internet connections and then lan high speed connections that will always be 100mb/s? whereas if you do a speed test or say your max torrent download speed would be a good indication of your download speed and upload speed.
For example the fastest global (by global i mean the sum of multiple torrents) download speed i can get is around 320kb/s with the highest upload without effecting download is 70kb/s. I am on a very cheap connection
If anybody knows more, info would be great. |
I am NOT on the cheapest connection and I regularly get sustained download rates (multiple torrents) of 750+ Kb/s which would work out to around 6 megabits per second.
People who CLAIM to have speeds of 100 megabits per sec or more are either confused, on a private T1 or flat out liars.
They may have 100 base T connections on their LAN but they do NOT have sustained 100 megabit connections to the internet. |
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corroonb
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| That 100 mbit connection is definately not the actual speed of the line, its the speed of the LAN connection to the router. I think the fastest connection in Korea is about 50 mbits which is a download speed of about 5 mbytes per second but I'm sure in practice its lower. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: correct me if i am wrong |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
i have heard a few people claim that they are getting internet speeds of 100mb/s, now as far as i am aware this is impossible, the 100mb/s is not your internet speed but the speed at which your computer is exchanging information to your modem right?
If you go to internet connections and then lan high speed connections that will always be 100mb/s? whereas if you do a speed test or say your max torrent download speed would be a good indication of your download speed and upload speed.
For example the fastest global (by global i mean the sum of multiple torrents) download speed i can get is around 320kb/s with the highest upload without effecting download is 70kb/s. I am on a very cheap connection
If anybody knows more, info would be great. |
I am NOT on the cheapest connection and I regularly get sustained download rates (multiple torrents) of 750+ Kb/s which would work out to around 6 megabits per second.
People who CLAIM to have speeds of 100 megabits per sec or more are either confused, on a private T1 or flat out liars.
They may have 100 base T connections on their LAN but they do NOT have sustained 100 megabit connections to the internet. |
Or we know what we are talking about and you don't. I recently posted how I have 100 megabit (effectively 70, however.) I download at 8 megaBYTES per second. I can download a full 700 megabyte movie in less than 2 minutes. You do the math. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| corroonb wrote: |
| That 100 mbit connection is definately not the actual speed of the line, its the speed of the LAN connection to the router. I think the fastest connection in Korea is about 50 mbits which is a download speed of about 5 mbytes per second but I'm sure in practice its lower. |
I guess you didn't believe me before when I wrote this:
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I think the lowest priced internet plans start around 15,000 won/month ($15 roughly.) That gets you about 5 megabits/s download, but of course, your upload may not be as high. I just recently upgraded because my upload was only 64Kb/s. I'm now paying about 34,000 won/month for 100 megabit internet. Of course, I'm not actually getting that, the actual speed is around 70 megabits (up and down.) |
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corroonb
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I did believe you but I checked and 100 mbit connections are apparently very rare and the LAN connection is 100 mbits per second and that could have confused you.
I apologise if I offended you and I stand corrected.
If you can download at 8 mbytes per second than you have at least an 80 mbit line and are a very fortunate individual indeed.
You're definitely right I found an article with cnet as a source and they mention that Japan and Korea have 100/100 mbps speeds.
http://www.rlslog.net/verizon-prepares-next-gen-100-mbit-broadband/ |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, in any case, now that you know I'm right, you can look forward to blazing fast internet when you get here. There are a few different companies offering 100 megabit internet right now, and if you live in Seoul, they probably offer it in your area. Also, when you sign up (or have someone from your academy/school sign you up) you get to choose from any of several nifty bonus gifts ranging from vacuum cleaners, microwaves, TVs, LCD monitors, or even cash back. We went with the cash back as it was by far the best deal. We got 150,000 won for signing up. Anyway, check around. (Oh, and we signed up with LG, fyi.) |
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corroonb
Joined: 04 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll probably be in Busan if the recruiter gets off his ass and e-mail me the contract. Will there be 100 mbit lines there? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Whether one gets a 100mbit line or not I don't think it's realistic to expect that everything you download, by bittorrent or whatever, will come in at those blistering high speeds all the time. It's all about who you're downloading from. Right?
I can get about 1.5 mbps on occasion (my ISP is LG Xspeed, 100mbit) from sources outside Korea but that's only if the files I'm downloading have dozens or even hundreds of uploaders.
Of course, if you are sourcing your download from inside Korea then it will give you a big grin to see how fast it comes in at.  |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Guys, many people get confused about this... Let me try and explain it.
A 100Mbit connection actually equals a 12.5 MB/s connection, now of course that is theoretical speed. How you work it out is that 8 bits equals 1 byte, so to work out speeds that some apps report you need to make sure you are talking about the correct format of measuring speed. I hear a lot of guys talking about 'WOW! I got a 5Mbit download the other day' (thinking he got 5MB/s) when in reality he got a 0.625 MB/s (625KB/s) download, which is still fast but its not 5MB/s.
I have the Ntopia thing going in my apartment where they hooked up a CAT5 cable direct to my router, no modem anymore. So yes, I have a 100Mbit connection, up and down by the way but I have not yet ever got 12.5MB downloads. My maximum has been around 2MB/s and that is fast (I dont care who you are thats fast, 'Larry the Cable Guy') Now you may ask why you dont get that 12.5 MB/s download on a 100Mbit line, well its simple, some servers are on slow connections, so no matter what you have if its a slow connection its a slow connection. Generally if I download something from Korea, I get 2MB/s on average. If I download something from the states, maybe I will get 500Kb/s if I am lucky.
Bottom line, make sure you know your bits from your bytes. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Giant wrote: |
Guys, many people get confused about this... Let me try and explain it.
A 100Mbit connection actually equals a 12.5 MB/s connection, now of course that is theoretical speed. How you work it out is that 8 bits equals 1 byte, so to work out speeds that some apps report you need to make sure you are talking about the correct format of measuring speed. I hear a lot of guys talking about 'WOW! I got a 5Mbit download the other day' (thinking he got 5MB/s) when in reality he got a 0.625 MB/s (625KB/s) download, which is still fast but its not 5MB/s.
I have the Ntopia thing going in my apartment where they hooked up a CAT5 cable direct to my router, no modem anymore. So yes, I have a 100Mbit connection, up and down by the way but I have not yet ever got 12.5MB downloads. My maximum has been around 2MB/s and that is fast (I dont care who you are thats fast, 'Larry the Cable Guy') Now you may ask why you dont get that 12.5 MB/s download on a 100Mbit line, well its simple, some servers are on slow connections, so no matter what you have if its a slow connection its a slow connection. Generally if I download something from Korea, I get 2MB/s on average. If I download something from the states, maybe I will get 500Kb/s if I am lucky.
Bottom line, make sure you know your bits from your bytes. |
Well, my fastest sustained download (which I get regularly from a particular download site) is 6 megabytes/second. That comes close enough to maxing out my connection. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Generally if I download something from Korea, I get 2MB/s on average. If I download something from the states, maybe I will get 500Kb/s if I am lucky.
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Exactly the speeds I get as well. In Korea, it's fast, fast, fast. When they initially hook you up, they will go to some internet speedometer and they will show you truly drool-worthy speeds.
Then they leave, and you go to download the latest 800MB+ game demo from US servers and suddenly you are getting a fraction of what you saw 5 minutes before. As Giant said, this has nothing to do with your connection.
All in all, I am impressed with the connections I have had. I have stayed with KT for a long time now; they have done right by me, though some other people have had nothing but grief. There are many providers here, so look around at what you think is the best package (as Thunndarr said) for you, and ring them up.
I have found that the bigger the company, the better chance of finding an English speaker to help you. Otherwise, you can look forward to getting things done by proxy, which can be a real headache. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Giant wrote: |
Generally if I download something from Korea, I get 2MB/s on average. If I download something from the states, maybe I will get 500Kb/s if I am lucky.
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Exactly the speeds I get as well. In Korea, it's fast, fast, fast. When they initially hook you up, they will go to some internet speedometer and they will show you truly drool-worthy speeds.
Then they leave, and you go to download the latest 800MB+ game demo from US servers and suddenly you are getting a fraction of what you saw 5 minutes before. As Giant said, this has nothing to do with your connection.
All in all, I am impressed with the connections I have had. I have stayed with KT for a long time now; they have done right by me, though some other people have had nothing but grief. There are many providers here, so look around at what you think is the best package (as Thunndarr said) for you, and ring them up.
I have found that the bigger the company, the better chance of finding an English speaker to help you. Otherwise, you can look forward to getting things done by proxy, which can be a real headache. |
Yes. Me too. |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thundarr,
I'm on a fast university connection and I've at times downloaded at 4MB/s from Adobe or MS, but I've never found a site, torrent or anything that has ever let me download at 6MB/s sustained. I don't know anyone that uploads informaton that fast. That's the BIGGEST limit.
What do you connect to to get 6MB/s? The most I've ever got off a mega-seeded torrent was 1.5-2...and I know I'm capable of receiving much faster. |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I am also very impressed with KT, they have done well by me as well.
@Thunndarr
You must be on a T3 line or something to get that kind of sustained speed. Only huge companies etc. can afford those unfortunately. |
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