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		| The Lemon 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Sixth time I was at home alone and I decided to fearlessly "ride the wave" -- just 'get into' the panic and see where it would take me. Like walking hand in hand with the Devil. It didn't go on very long, maybe half an hour. My shortest attack ever. Since then, I've only felt tinglings of dread but never a full-fledged attack. |  
 Maybe this was a good strategy, to try to learn more about what was happening and remove some of the unknown element. As I recall, the scariest things about it were the loss of control over myself, not knowing what was happening or why, and being afraid that it was going to escalate and take over my life. Once I'd demonstrated to myself that I did still have some control over what was going on up there in my brain, things got much better.
 
 This would be a good place for a trite "what a strange machine the human mind is" line, but I don't have any.
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		| essexboy 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:31 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| you got some spot on advice here, all the same stuff a therapist would say. I had depression a few years back, but i draw and paint, so it kind of helped me in a weird way, i now draw on the experience when i am painting and it gives my work real depth. The thing that totally sorted me out was exercise though. If you are running/cycling/rowing, after a while, you kind of switch off, as if you are asleep. It really focuses your mind.
 Set yourself goals each time you go to the gym, and by achieving each one you will feel better.
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		| Satori 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | What helped me: 
 1. Eating right.  Fruits, veggies, easy on the junk food.
 
 2. Exercise, 6 days a week
 
 3. Enough sleep.  8 or 9 hours a night.
 
 4. Time with people...make some friends.
 
 5. Meditation...an hour a day.
 
 Basic healthy lifestyle stuff I guess.
 
 If you drink all the time, eat junk food and sleep only 5 hours a night, of course your life won't be great and you'll feel depressed.  Not to say that some people don't need medication though.
 |  That sounds spot on and exactly what Id recommend. If you dont at least try this I think you`re wasting your time with more advanced and complex approaches...
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		| happygirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | does anyone know of a clinic in gwangju? |  
 i can't make it back to JinJu to see my doctor.  need to find one here.  got any ideas about how to find someone/
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		| bnrockin 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I do agree that exercise and meditation can be very helpful to you in dealing with depression.  Another thing that helps, at least for me, is people.  I absolutely HAVE to be around people!  An increased social life can work wonders, even if you have to initiate it.  Joining clubs can help also. 
 Best of luck.
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		| Kimchi Cha Cha 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:06 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | does anyone know of a clinic in gwangju? |  
 i can't make it back to JinJu to see my doctor.  need to find one here.  got any ideas about how to find someone/
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 I got fairly depressed when I returned to Korea in '04 and was in Gwangju at the time. I went to Chonnam National University Hospital in between Namgwangju and Provincial Office subway stations and not too far from the southern edge of downtown. First time I just went to the front desk with a little handwritten note in Korean and English listing my symptoms, I also mentioned how I've had a pre-existing condition with depression.
 
 They directed me to the Psych. Clinic (Bld. 7) where I'd see a doctor every 3 weeks or so, they'd ask how I was and then give me a prescription for the next 3 weeks. My experience with the doctors there was good, I usually saw the same guy who specialised in depression and anxiety. His English wasn't all that great but we always were able to understand each other, and I found him and the others quite professional and caring. I noticed that they also have a foreigners' clinic catering to the foreign community though I never visited there.
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		| Adventurer 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| [quote="CBP"]I've heard mixed reviews about St. John's Wart, but Vitamin B-12 therapy seems to be doing wonders for people.  And it's non-toxic. 
 Many people are deficient in B-12.   I was told that taking B-12 tablets is not effective, and you must take it in liquid form.  I don't think you can find anything other than the multi-vitamins.  I heard mixed reviews about St. John's Wart.  I even heard it can affect men's sterility, supposedly.
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		| happygirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | happygirl wrote: |  
	  | does anyone know of a clinic in gwangju? |  
 i can't make it back to JinJu to see my doctor.  need to find one here.  got any ideas about how to find someone/
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 I got fairly depressed when I returned to Korea in '04 and was in Gwangju at the time. I went to Chonnam National University Hospital in between Namgwangju and Provincial Office subway stations and not too far from the southern edge of downtown. First time I just went to the front desk with a little handwritten note in Korean and English listing my symptoms, I also mentioned how I've had a pre-existing condition with depression.
 
 They directed me to the Psych. Clinic (Bld. 7) where I'd see a doctor every 3 weeks or so, they'd ask how I was and then give me a prescription for the next 3 weeks. My experience with the doctors there was good, I usually saw the same guy who specialised in depression and anxiety. His English wasn't all that great but we always were able to understand each other, and I found him and the others quite professional and caring. I noticed that they also have a foreigners' clinic catering to the foreign community though I never visited there.
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 thanks for the info.  i appreciate you taking the time to respond.  have a wonderful day.
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		| Yaya 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | bnrockin wrote: |  
	  | I do agree that exercise and meditation can be very helpful to you in dealing with depression.  Another thing that helps, at least for me, is people.  I absolutely HAVE to be around people!  An increased social life can work wonders, even if you have to initiate it.  Joining clubs can help also. 
 Best of luck.
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 Taking it easy on the booze is also helpful, as well as finding things to do OTHER than drink.
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		| OiGirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | CBP wrote: |  
	  | I've heard mixed reviews about St. John's Wart, but Vitamin B-12 therapy seems to be doing wonders for people.  And it's non-toxic. 
 Many people are deficient in B-12.   I was told that taking B-12 tablets is not effective, and you must take it in liquid form.  I don't think you can find anything other than the multi-vitamins.  I heard mixed reviews about St. John's Wart.  I even heard it can affect men's sterility, supposedly.
 |  And it can also affect the efficacy of hormonal birth control, so if you're taking it, I guess you could make sure your partner's taking it, too!
 
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  That was a JOKE, if it was not clear. Don't mess around. Depression + unplanned pregnancy = bad idea.) |  | 
	
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		| shifter2009 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | bnrockin wrote: |  
	  | I do agree that exercise and meditation can be very helpful to you in dealing with depression.  Another thing that helps, at least for me, is people.  I absolutely HAVE to be around people!  An increased social life can work wonders, even if you have to initiate it.  Joining clubs can help also. 
 Best of luck.
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 Taking it easy on the booze is also helpful, as well as finding things to do OTHER than drink.
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 There is something else here to do? My korean friends have been lying to me....
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		| happygirl 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I found a doctor in Gwangju! 
 The Body & Soul Clinic in Gwangju is a great place. Seunggwan Khang M.D. is fantastic. He spent over an hour talking with me. His English is outstanding. He practices holistic medicine and treats the entire person. The clinic offers many different services including mental illness/counseling, pain therapy, family and women's health,  alternative medicine and minor surgery. He's the only dr I'll be seeing.
 
 Here's their website
 
 http://www.biblehealth.co.kr/frame1.htm
 
 i hope this helps someone.
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		| potblackettle 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Crank up the Electric Light Orchestra and dance naked except for your socks (the better to slide on hardwood floors). 
 Seriously, it works for me.  I mean how can you be depressed listening to Mr. Blue Sky?
 
 Seriously for real though... sorry man.  Get the pills and then get out there.  Some people just don't have the right chemicals.
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		| Yaya 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:34 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | potblackettle wrote: |  
	  | Crank up the Electric Light Orchestra and dance naked except for your socks (the better to slide on hardwood floors). 
 Seriously, it works for me.  I mean how can you be depressed listening to Mr. Blue Sky?
 
 Seriously for real though... sorry man.  Get the pills and then get out there.  Some people just don't have the right chemicals.
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 Yeah, but don't forget the ELO classic "Evil Woman," and I KNOW many here can relate to that tune.
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		| jajdude 
 
 
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