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Yeolchae
Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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 Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Stats on foreign students in Korea |
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Total No:
>32,000
Regional Breakdown:
Asian: 90%
Non-Asian: 10%
Top 5 By Country:
1. China: (20,000)
2. Japan: (3,700)
3. Americans (1,400)
4. Vietnamese (1,100)
5. Taiwanese (900)
Top 2 by Subject:
1. Humanities and Social Science (15,000)
2. Natural Sciences and Engineering (6,400)
You can also read all this in a daft unreadable format here:
http://english.kbs.co.kr/news/newsview_sub.php?menu=4&key=2006102419 |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| I would love to study in Korea but as they don't let you legally work on a student visa I can't. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| I would love to study in Korea but as they don't let you legally work on a student visa I can't. |
You can do limited work legally, after a certain period of studying a degree course (6 months from memory) |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Does it have to be a degree course? I've been studying Korean for about 7 months...but I'm guessing this doesn't qualify me.  |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Does it have to be a degree course? I've been studying Korean for about 7 months...but I'm guessing this doesn't qualify me. |
Yeah man unfortunately korean language institutes don't count. Koreans are so proud of the almighty 한글 and 한국말 but they don't do much to effectively encourage foreigners to study it |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Does it have to be a degree course? I've been studying Korean for about 7 months...but I'm guessing this doesn't qualify me. |
Yeah man unfortunately korean language institutes don't count. Koreans are so proud of the almighty 한글 and 한국말 but they don't do much to effectively encourage foreigners to study it |
What you talking about? You can get a student's visa to be in Korea enrolled in an Korean language program at some university. You can live in their dorms, etc. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| I would love to study in Korea but as they don't let you legally work on a student visa I can't. |
You can do limited work legally, after a certain period of studying a degree course (6 months from memory) |
You can work part-time (20 hours per week) in a field/company related to your major with permission from the immigration office which you get by having a job offer and a recomendation letter from your advisor.
Basically, system is same like for foreign students in USA. A bit less restrictive even.
Of course, to go over 20 hr/wk you can have some talks with your employer 
But, being a full-time student you can't teach English in some hagwon to supplement your income. Which is totally OK because you are student #1 and doing stuff in your major. Income comes from scholarships for international students, discounts in tuitions, and also projects you are working on as a graduate student.
So, it is very much possible to study in Korea and get some degree. However, one needs to decide what he or she wants to do first. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure you can study full or part time at just about any program while on a work visa. You just have to work out the scheduling. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| Does it have to be a degree course? I've been studying Korean for about 7 months...but I'm guessing this doesn't qualify me. |
Yeah man unfortunately korean language institutes don't count. Koreans are so proud of the almighty 한글 and 한국말 but they don't do much to effectively encourage foreigners to study it |
What you talking about? You can get a student's visa to be in Korea enrolled in an Korean language program at some university. You can live in their dorms, etc. |
What am I talking about? I'm talking about doing legal work on a student visa. WTF may I ask are you talking about? |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| talking about doing legal work on a student visa. WTF may I ask are you talking about? |
I am talking about that you CAN work provided that the work is in your major 6 months after you start the program as a full time student.
Example: You study computer science full-time at a Korean university. You work part-time for Samsung or LG as a software engineer.
All legal & allowed by the student visa.
Got it? |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| talking about doing legal work on a student visa. WTF may I ask are you talking about? |
I am talking about that you CAN work provided that the work is in your major 6 months after you start the program as a full time student.
Example: You study computer science full-time at a Korean university. You work part-time for Samsung or LG as a software engineer.
All legal & allowed by the student visa.
Got it? |
That is exactly what I said in my first post, if you bothered to read it. The distinction I made is that you can't work at all if you are studying at a korean language institute on a student visa. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I can understand coming to Korea to study engineering (land of Samsung ect) and of course it would be the best place to study Korean......but its a bit of an obscure place to chose to get a social science degree wouldn't you say? |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Initially this was written:
| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| I would love to study in Korea but as they don't let you legally work on a student visa I can't. |
CLG said she would like to study in Korea but you can't legally work on a student visa. Which is not true. You can work on a student visa.
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| talking about doing legal work on a student visa. WTF may I ask are you talking about? |
I am talking about that you CAN work provided that the work is in your major 6 months after you start the program as a full time student.
Example: You study computer science full-time at a Korean university. You work part-time for Samsung or LG as a software engineer.
All legal & allowed by the student visa.
Got it? |
That is exactly what I said in my first post, if you bothered to read it. The distinction I made is that you can't work at all if you are studying at a korean language institute on a student visa. |
Your first post talks about you can work after 6 months. To which I agreed.
Now: If you go to Korea to study Korean language with a student visa you could get a job which is related to Korean and your language. For example, being a part-time tour guide for the government where you have to interact in both languages. Or something which would enable you to study more Korean with the work you are doing so it is justified.
It would be harder to find, but visa for a foregin student studying X and visa for a foreign student studying Korean language is the same visa. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| europe2seoul wrote: |
Initially this was written:
| crazylemongirl wrote: |
| I would love to study in Korea but as they don't let you legally work on a student visa I can't. |
CLG said she would like to study in Korea but you can't legally work on a student visa. Which is not true. You can work on a student visa.
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| europe2seoul wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| talking about doing legal work on a student visa. WTF may I ask are you talking about? |
I am talking about that you CAN work provided that the work is in your major 6 months after you start the program as a full time student.
Example: You study computer science full-time at a Korean university. You work part-time for Samsung or LG as a software engineer.
All legal & allowed by the student visa.
Got it? |
That is exactly what I said in my first post, if you bothered to read it. The distinction I made is that you can't work at all if you are studying at a korean language institute on a student visa. |
Your first post talks about you can work after 6 months. To which I agreed.
Now: If you go to Korea to study Korean language with a student visa you could get a job which is related to Korean and your language. For example, being a part-time tour guide for the government where you have to interact in both languages. Or something which would enable you to study more Korean with the work you are doing so it is justified.
It would be harder to find, but visa for a foregin student studying X and visa for a foreign student studying Korean language is the same visa. |
Same visa you say?
From http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_04/imm_p01/vm6.jsp
General Training
(D-4) Visa
For students who want to learn Korean in a language institution attached to an university, or who are exchange students according to academic interchange agreements between universities
Study
(D-2) Visa
Doesn't elaborate on this.
The visas are obviously not the same and last time I checked you can only legally work on a D2 Study visa, not the Korean Language D4. |
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europe2seoul
Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
From http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_04/imm_p01/vm6.jsp
General Training
(D-4) Visa
For students who want to learn Korean in a language institution attached to an university, or who are exchange students according to academic interchange agreements between universities
Study
(D-2) Visa
Doesn't elaborate on this.
The visas are obviously not the same and last time I checked you can only legally work on a D2 Study visa, not the Korean Language D4. |
Lovely.
I guess one should get a D-2 then, even though he/she is studying Korean.
However, neither OP and CLG said anything about studying Korean. They wrongly claimed its impossible to legaly study and legaly work in Korea. Which is not true at all.
From all the possible majors I can not fathom why would one study Korean language and possibly pay for it. They can study biotech, robotics, automation, chemistry, nano technology, etc. Even Korean art, Asian politics and history if one is inclined for that. Most university offer Korean language classes for foreign students that they have to take since a high degree is not granted unless one passes Korean language proficiency exam (or high grade in those classes), especially if we are talking PhD level. Somewhat easier for MS level.
For MBA you have to fork out cash though. |
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