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Korea vs. Corea...
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Well, which K/Corea do you like?
Korea
81%
 81%  [ 48 ]
Corea
18%
 18%  [ 11 ]
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A Corean priende tolde mi that Mi-gook meanse beautifule kountry. Thatse fine wij me.
Ase for je C/K jing.... First, they should stop calling Bush Bushi. Then they should stop calling McDonalds Macadonaldse. Then they should change their alphabet so that zoo is not joo and zebra is not jebra. After they do this, then I will consider calling them Corea.


Obviously yoo iz deeep in da linguistic streets bra
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
ENGLISH ANAL-RETENTIVE PEOPLE TAKE NOTE: (I am one of them by the way!)


It's "Corea" 100%, and I will tell you why.

It is purely a matter of English and it's rules.

Soft C words almost always have an e, i, or y following them.

Hard C words almost always have an a, o, or u following them.
(Cat, Cot, Cut)

If you want a "K" sound and follow it with an e, i, or y, you should use a K instead of a C.
(Ken, Kin, Kyte)

So, it should be Corea for that reason. Because it is the law of English.


This is the best argument I have heard. But, wouldn't it be "Gorea" according to the "new" spelling system?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:


This is the best argument I have heard. But, wouldn't it be "Gorea" according to the "new" spelling system?


You're damn skippy!

The other ironic bit about the Korea/Corea argument is that hangook comes way after just about every country in the Korean dictionary.

If Koreans don't care where their country can be found in their own dictionary, why should we care where it lands in ours?
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something that occured to me here...

According to the CIA World Factbook, the "conventional long form" of the name is Republic of Korea and the "conventional short form" is South Korea.

Seems to me that no matter how you spell Korea/Corea/Gorea, it's still going to fall way behind China and Japan in any alphabetical listing Wink
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Migook means BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY which comes from the two Chinese characters "Mi" (beautiful) and "Gook" (country).

The Chinese and Taiwanese also call America Meegook (but sounds like meigweioo).
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of my students used to think it should be spelt "Corea" after all those World Cup 2002 banners. But, now, post-Olympics, even the newest students quickly spell it "Korea".

But "South Korea" obviously makes some uncomfortable, especially the older students who've said that mail often has written on it "Seoul Korea" instead (my director even recommended it for my correspondence with my home country), even though the letters are for down here on the southeast coast.

The unification vision will re-ignite the K/C controversy when the North's decidedly European "C" spelling will contend for the title.

There's background issues of cultural identity and affiliation at stake for them, I think.

Like my home province of British Columbia, Canada. Some want to take the "British" out, others only refer to "B.C." Some rename as Beautiful Coast and the like.

There's a lot in a name.
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Yangkho



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Honam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is absouletly no hard evidence that the Japanese changed the spelling. Ask somebody for specifics: who did it and when? Exactly who and exactly when? And how on Earth did they successfully petition all English-speaking nations to adopt the K-spelling?

Why would one country (whose national language is not English) worry about the spelling of another country in a foreign language?

If it really bothers them, they should change their English name to Goryeo.

But, of course, I'm a fool to waste so many words on this subject. This issue has nothing to do with rational thought patterns or logic.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matko wrote:
Let them change it to Corea so they can be ahead of Japan in the alphabet!


You may be on to the real reason they want it changed. The story of Japan changing C to K for the Olympics is nonsense since the Korean athletes walked under the japanese flag, and even used japanese names after the japanese invasion. I found a few years ago a picture of old korean postal stamp from 1895 (long before the invasion), and the name of the country had a K, not a C.

Another example of how people will believe anything that justifies their hatred, and of how politicians will prey on these feelings to further their careers.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like my home province of British Columbia, Canada. Some want to take the "British" out, others only refer to "B.C." Some rename as Beautiful Coast and the like.



Oh my god. Those people better stay on the island, then. They'd get beat down for calling it, "Beautiful Coast" in Vancouver.
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Rather_Dashing



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In french it's already written Corea, I think.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather_Dashing wrote:
In french it's already written Corea, I think.


In most European langauges it is. It's the Germanic langauges that spell it with a 'K'.
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ladyandthetramp



Joined: 21 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some languages use a "c" and some use a "k" depending on how they generally transliterate foreign words into their language.

English generally uses a "k" with foreign words (unless they are from languages already using the same alphabet.) Using "c" is a waste, because we already need to use "s" and "k." It's not just the word "Korea."
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Wisco Kid



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Mi-gook comes from chinese characters and also sounds a lot nicer when pronounced in Mandarin: "Mei-guo"

I wonder did the chinese pick this name cuz they think america is a "beautiful country" or just because of the sound "mei" as in america?
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a country where the president changed his name from Noh to Roh, anything goes. Personally, How about Gogorea or the Tangun republic.
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batman



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or how about killing the whole C/G/Korea name and just teach non-Koreans how to say 'Dae Han Min Gook"?

English nicknames for people are dumb enough. Having one for a country borders on the same kind of lameness.
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