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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: Dae Han Minguk!!-Real Meaning |
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At events like the Olympics, or Soccer World Cup, Koreans will chant, "Dae Han Minguk", just like Americans chant USA USA USA, and Australians chant Aussie Aussie Aussie Oy Oy Oy. All harmless stuff...or is it!.
Ask a Korean what does Dae Han Minguk mean, and they will say it means 'Republic of Korea'. BUT are they telling the truth.
Dae means Great, Distinguished, Grand, Superior
Han means Korea/Korean
Min guk seems to be an amalgamation of two words and seems to mean, race, nationality, race of people.
Putting this alltogether, the chant seems to mean, THE GREAT(SUPERIOR) KOREAN RACE (PEOPLE). IF this is indead correct, and all Koreans do this and lie about it's true meaning, and this chant is encouraged and taught in the school system, then it is behaviour that is entirely inappropriate in this day and age. I hope I am wrong on this matter.
Very similar to the Nazi, Deutschland Deutschland Uber Alles, Germany, above all others. A chant abandoned a long time ago |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, your first post. Whose sock are you?  |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, chants of "we're number one!" are morally repugnant...I think it is wonderful how you can introduce a topic and Godwin it at the same time -- takes skill, talent, and a delicate mix of hyperbole and inanity. I give it an 8,8, but the Russian judge gave it a 4.1. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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and why would you be surprised that it was the chant........Korean men have actually told me Koreans are superior because of chopstick skill and longer intestines ( how do they know this). They are more evolved because they have less body hair than white people....(never mind the African people who also have less body hair but are not considered more evolved). |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Someone tell this sock that 민국 means "republic." If you put two different syllables together they have a different meaning than their individual parts. |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Some people just have too much time and try so painfully hard to be creative.
Dae means superior?
Min guk means race?
OP wrote: |
I hope I am wrong on this matter. |
Go to sleep. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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bellum99 wrote: |
They are more evolved because they have less body hair than white people....(never mind the African people who also have less body hair but are not considered more evolved). |
You can quickly make them regret having said that by pointing out that their lack of body hair is indicative of their higher degree of feminization and corresponding lack of masculinity. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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대 (大) just means big - you need to add another word to it to make it superior.
한 (韓) means Korea
民 - people
國 - country
Which does mean the Republic of Korea.
China, in Chinese, is ALWAYS simplified to 中國, but its full name is:
中華人民共和國
People's Republic of China.
Same, same. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, "han" doesn't exactly mean Korea.
Quite a few people have told me that the technical meaning of "han" is a kind of "shame"...but I can't explain it very well. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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okay, it's just a sock or troll or whatever, but it is a topic of interest for some as to what those four words actually mean. The assistant director at my last hagwon explained it to me like this: 대한 refers to the greater Han area, which was once divided into three kingdoms but united by similar language and culture. As RACETRAITOR said, 민국 means republic. So the Republic of Korea is basically what it means.
The funny thing is, I've asked numerous Koreans to explain to me what 대한민국 means, and none were able to answer. (The assistant director had to search Naver to give me his answer.) Everyone I've talked to about it says something about it meaning Great Korean People Country or something. Very strange so many educated folks don't know the history of their country's name.
I know, I know.. 99% of Americans wouldn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is.. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Qinella wrote: |
I know, I know.. 99% of Americans wouldn't know who Amerigo Vespucci is.. |
Amerigo Vespucci? Maitre d ' at Canal Bar? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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khyber wrote: |
Actually, "han" doesn't exactly mean Korea.
Quite a few people have told me that the technical meaning of "han" is a kind of "shame"...but I can't explain it very well. |
That's a different usage.
You know like how 'right' can mean both 'correct' and 'opposite of left'? I suspect it's the same with Han here, because in the context of Dae Han Min Gook, Hangook etc 'Han' means Korea - as does the family name 'Han' if memory serves. I know a few Hans and they're all quick to point out their name "means Korea". |
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peony

Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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not just usage, a lot of words have different meanings and use different chinese characters but are pronounced the same
like kang- it can mean river, be a surname or mean strong |
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Bondrock

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Location: ^_^
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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"Dae Han Minguk"
... means "Korea is a great Country"
but does anybody really care if a country cheers for its national team?
Go Canada! |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well even if does still mean racial superiority I'll still keep singing 'Oh, piss on Korea, Oh, piss on Korea, Oh, piss on Korea, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh - [clap clap clap]...' |
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