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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: Will Paris burn again? |
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Today is the one year anniversary of the French Infitada.
The French have 50,000 riot police on duty and the city is preparing for the worst. Some are openly talking of Civil War, and not being corrected by the government. The current situation is quite dire:
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The situation, however, never returned to normal. Unless one considers (as some French officials seem to do) the current situation as �normal.� In the first six months of this year there were 50,000 acts of urban violence by Muslims. On average 15 police officers, fire fighters or other public officials are attacked per day and 100 cars are set alight per night. |
http://politicscentral.com/2006/10/25/france_prepares_50000_riot_pol.php
It the threat being exaggerated? I wish I spoke French and could read what the papers/blogs etc from there are saying. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Wouldn't it be a good idea for you to investigate why you have such a hard-on for Moslems? I mean this seriously, not as a quip or a smart-ass remark. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Changing the topic eh? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Paris has been, and will be , burning for quite some time. maybe one day they'll realise they're being invaded.
Oct. 28, 2006, 7:39PM
Youths burn hundreds of cars in France
By ELAINE GANLEY Associated Press Writer
� 2006 The Associated Press
CLICHY-SOUS-BOIS, France � Marauding youths torched hundreds of vehicles overnight and on Saturday in renewed violence coinciding with the first anniversary of riots that exposed a deep schism between poor North African immigrants and mainstream France.
A group of teenagers set one bus on fire Saturday in the southern French port city of Marseille, seriously wounding a passenger. Three others suffered from smoke inhalation, police said. Two other public buses and 277 vehicles around the country were burned overnight, police said.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4294827.html |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Most definately! |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Why 112 cars are burning every day
By Charles Bremner
The Times October 21, 2006
A year after the Paris riots violence and despair continue to grip the immigrant suburbs
FLAMES lick around a burning car on a tiny telephone screen. Omar, 17, a veteran of France�s suburban riots, replayed the sequence with pride. �It was great. We did lots of them and then we went out and torched more the next day.�
Omar, whose parents immigrated from Mali, was savouring memories of the revolt that erupted 12 months ago from his home, the Ch�ne Pointu estate in Clichy-sous-Bois, in the eastern outskirts of Paris. �We�re ready for it again. In fact it hasn�t stopped,� he added.
Before next week�s anniversary of the Clichy riots, the violence and despair on the estates are again to the fore. Despite a promised renaissance, little has changed, and the lid could blow at any moment.
The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.
�The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,� said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: �We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.�
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2414175,00.html
France Prepares 50,000 Riot Police for Muslim Attacks
http://politicscentral.com/2006/10/25/france_prepares_50000_riot_pol.php
Intifada in France?
http://www.pajamasmedia.com/2006/10/intifada_in_france_a_pajamas_m.php
FRANCE HEADS FOR CIVIL WAR
http://www.publiuspundit.com/?p=3005 |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Will Paris burn again? |
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It the threat being exaggerated? I wish I spoke French and could read what the papers/blogs etc from there are saying. |
I think it is. The Economist did a survey of France for this week's issue. One of the articles was about minorities and the rioting.
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Clichy has no police station, though one has been promised. When the police do appear, in vans, young men feel they are being picked on. �The police have a difficult time because innocent youths and criminal youths dress the same and speak the same,� says Claude Dilain, Clichy's Socialist mayor. �There's a feeling that they are all hassled.�
A different sort of uprising
When the riots started, they were treated in some quarters as a �suburban intifada�. �Jihad comes home�, ran one newspaper headline. Some American observers regarded the uprising as further proof of Europe's inability to control the spread of radical Islam. France has Europe's biggest Muslim population�an estimated 5m, or 8% of France's inhabitants�so it comes under special scrutiny.
A report into the riots by the French Renseignements G�n�raux, the domestic intelligence-gathering service, however, found the opposite. Islamists had �no role in setting off the violence or in fanning it,� it concluded. Clichy's mayor agrees. �I completely reject the idea that the riots were an Islamist plot,� he says. �During the rioting I never heard of a young man burning a car in the name of Allah; but I heard of plenty of Muslims saying, 'go home in the name of Allah'.� |
No police station? Are the French that damn stupid? No wonder there are problems in that particular neighborhood.
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| France had been so preoccupied with watching Islamic radicals, said the report, that it had neglected the wider problems in its banlieues. On certain housing estates, adds Alain Bauer, a criminologist, organised criminal gangs, shaken by recent police raids, took advantage of the uprising. By first encouraging and then calming the rioters, he says, the gangs tried to remind the police of their power. |
Sounds lovely.
That being said, there is one bright spot for france:
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| This unambiguous, well-articulated sense of nationhood seems to rub off on its newer citizens. A recent study by the Pew Centre showed that, whereas 81% of British Muslims considered themselves to be more Muslim than British, only 46% of French Muslims considered themselves to be more Muslim than French. |
Full article is at:
Minority Report
You need a subscription in order to read the article, but I can cut and paste the whole thing if anyone is interested. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Will Paris burn again? |
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Cut and paste! Cut and paste!
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