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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Dixie Chicks Movie Reply with quote

I'm not sure if anyone is aware about the Dixie Chick's movie, "Shut up and Sing" that is coming out next month. If you recall there was a controversy a few years ago over one of them saying, "I'm embarrassed the President of the United States is from Texas."

http://www.myspace.com/shutupandsing
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Yo!Chingo



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, they were on Larry King Live trying to promote it. NBC won't even run the trailers for $$$ on their network b/c of what they said about the President!!!
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
there was a controversy a few years ago...


They remain unapologetic and defiant. Here is an excerpt from a track on their latest album...

Quote:
Forgive, sounds good.
Forget, I'm not sure I could.
They say time heals everything,
But I'm still waiting

I'm through, with doubt,
There's nothing left for me to figure out,
I've paid a price, and i'll keep paying

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could...


They (more likely, their publicists) are pushing this as a "free speech" issue.

I see it as another one of these issues, however...

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=67785
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading about one network cancelling an interview with Maude Barlowe from the Council of Canadians because she is a personal who is critical of George W. Bush. She is an expert when it comes to global water issues, and that is why they originally invited her. The networks are not out there to promote the first amendment. There is no public network to really advocate for the first amendment. It is clear the first amendment is trampled on the public's airwaves for the sake of the agenda of those who run things.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
The networks are not out there to promote the first amendment. There is no public network to really advocate for the first amendment. It is clear the first amendment is trampled on the public's airwaves for the sake of the agenda of those who run things.


This view is too caught up in antiEstablishmentism.

The first amendment has nothing at all to do with private organizations' decisions to print or not to print, to interview or not to interview, etc. People do not have a constitutional right to force private organizations to allow them to air their views or to publish said views in print.

The first amendment regulate's the government's behavior towards the media, not corporations' or the media's behavior towards private citizens.

And, most importantly the first amendment was not intended to enforce people's right to say as they please with respect to corporations, the media, or schools for that matter. The first amendment, at the time it was drafted, was intended to bar the government from, I believe, favoring one or another religion over the others, which would be, presumably, officially promoted and suppressed, respectively, were such an amendment lacking...

From the horse's mouth:

U.S. Constitution wrote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


The Dixie Chicks' issue is not a free-speech issue, then. Their publicists are presenting it as such because it excites the antiBush mob and might create enough controversy to boost this film's sales in the other, nonmob, demographics.

If you think it is a free-speech issue, you would have to show that the White House or Congress has abused govt power or drafted an unconstitutional law that either shut down production of this film, prevented it from reaching the theaters, ordered theaters not to show it, or has somehow moved to establish a police state and now dominates each and every media decision, including the two above-mentioned ones (NBC and Barlowe) for example.

If you are going to make such an assertion, I would like to know how the Dixie Chicks' latest album made it through this net and, indeed, how their film was even produced in the first place.

(Cue an Igotthisguitar-style response...)
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
The networks are not out there to promote the first amendment. There is no public network to really advocate for the first amendment. It is clear the first amendment is trampled on the public's airwaves for the sake of the agenda of those who run things.


This view is too caught up in antiEstablishmentism.
Rolling Eyes
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you really dig up a year old thread, just to post an eye roll smiley?

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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shut up & sing Wink
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoyed it.

Saw it atleast 6 mo. ago.....

Why so late coming out?

DD
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