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thepeel · Joined: 08 Aug 2004

Ohhhhh, this isn't going to go away.

Say Hello! to the 'hanging chads' of 2006.

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

Okay, most of you know I'm not a cosnpiracy hound, but I would appreciate it if someone in the know could answer this question...

Why exactly was it so urgent to switch to electronic voting? Hadn't hand-counted paper ballots served the USA well for centuries? As far as I can tell, all e-voting does is make the counting process inexplicable to the layman, and make it less easy to refute the conspiracy theorists.

So. Why did they switch to electronic voting?

Meegook · Joined: 12 Oct 2006

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

E voting, is just a small part of the problem. The real problems are the electronic scanners that count the paper ballots, gerrymandering (sp?) and disenfranchisement.

On the other hand · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

Really? Hmm..maybe all us freaky wagukins from Kanukistan get those ideas from things like this.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003315816

Gallup: Only 1 in 4 Americans Very Confident Votes Will Be Counted Accurately

By E&P Staff

Published: October 27, 2006 9:55 AM ET

NEW YORK Gallup reports today, less than two weeks from the midterm elections, that a new poll finds that only about one in four Americans are "very confident" that votes across the country will be accurately cast and counted and that workers at voting facilities will be capable of resolving any problems. "The public places equal trust in electronic or computerized ballots and paper ballots to correctly record its votes this year," Gallup relates.

"Republicans and Democrats differ in their overall confidence in the country's voting system, with Republicans much more likely than Democrats to express confidence in the accuracy of the vote counts, in the workers at polling facilities, and in the trustworthiness of electronic ballots."

The overall number expressing a high degree of confidence, in the poll taken Oct. 20-22, is 28%, with 4 in 10 Republicans very confident versus only 17% of Democrats. Republicans also express more faith in electronic ballots than Democrats.

Meegook · Joined: 12 Oct 2006

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

So there you have it, On the Other Hand. The conspiracy theorists and I have weighed in on the voting issue and "electronic ballots."

I guess you can take it or leave it as you find it...

Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

I do not want to really comment on the hijackers except to say that you can make a weapon out of many things. People who are trained with paramilitary tactics in camps can figure out ways to harm people.
The person who doesn't believe Arab hijackers did it believes either the U.S. government did it for certain political objectives or the Israelis did it because they wanted more Americans to become anti-Arab.

The current administration is looking into these ballots. It is kind of interesting considering many of the machines are owned by people who have been, at least in the past, quite friendly to the Bush administration, adn we have no paper trail or sure-fire-way to ensure the vote is legitimate. This is not conspiracy theory talking. I have read of computer programmers saying there were serious holes in the software.
I believe there was also a whistle blower on top of that. I used to think it was ridiculous to believe that the vote could be tampered with in Ohio.
Before computers were around, elections were tampered with, and it can happen after the use of computers.

You should not have voting machines owned by partisans counting votes.
You should have people made up equally from two parties tabulating, counting things. That is the only way to go.