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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuseok was not a holiday for many of my female students (20 & up). As they had to prepare the food while their husbands and brothers went out drinking.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
djsmnc wrote:
It would be great if Koreans would change their ways and stop eating side dishes. They need to stop sitting on the floor too. They need to use forks and get rid of chopsticks.


stop spitting and cutting in queues too... Rolling Eyes

Oh dear god why is it that the minute says anything even remotley negative about Korea or Koreans we are immediatly some sort of mcdonalds eating imperalist... aissshi.


I'll say I was struck by such an old-timer penning an OP on such a trivial matter. I thought you were joking at first. It was just one of those days when it got to you, eh?

Imperialist.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive nothing against the concept of lots of side dishes. And a lot of them in Korea I can go for, but not all. It's more just the general locked in way of thinking that "this is the way it's got to be", and the almost religious hallowing of thier own cuisine above all others. It's good, but it ain't all that. The way it's based on so many soups kinda shows that it's a cuisine born out of poverty and a lack of a range of ingrediants. Again, I like a lot of Korean food, I just don't like the rigid way of thinking about food, and the nationalism attacked to the whole food issue in Korea.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans and sidedishes Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
(here's me totally not getting the point... )

crazylemongirl wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if koreans would curl up and die without their sidedishes.

Yeah, Koreans will often rate a restaurant as "good" just based on the quality and variety of their banchan. Oh well.



Heck, I do too. Stockholm syndrome?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans and sidedishes Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:

At Costco... Where at Coscto? Do you mean downstairs in the pizza & hotdog stuff-yer-fat-face-ateria? Yeah, they set out the condiments for customers. You're calling onions, relish & ketchup "sidedishes"? They're condiments. Confused

They are condiments in the west. But here in korea they mush it up into one big side dish of grossness

Okay, I see now. Ewww. Of course, as condiments on hotdogs or hamburgers, don't they get sort of shoved together at some point anyway? But no, mixing them up beforehand in a dish of mutually hostile flavours & colours isn't right. Sounds pukey.

Reminds me of some Korean women I know who have the gauche, really quite bumpkinish habit of mixing together two or more dressings on their salads. Why? Because they want both (or all three!) dressings, that's why, damnit! And they're not going to be bullied into submission by some arbitary, arrogant, imperialist, Western decree on table manners (as dictated by me! Razz ) that says they've gotta stick with just one dressing. Hell no! So it's Bleu Cheese & Italian, locked in mortal combat in a single salad bowl. Rolling Eyes I've seen a lot of them do this at the hoity-toity hotel buffets around Seoul. One of the many reasons I detest buffet dining in Korea. Adults doing unappetising things with their food, and out-of-control kids farking around. I usually just groan, but I think I should start launching threads about these things.

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The sliced sweet pickles in the little plastic containers? I regularly dump them in the trash myself, but I wouldn't think they'd make a mess. Kid reaches in, grabs one slice, another kid follows, the next, the next, done. What mess? A few drops of brine they might dribble on the table?

As I teach teenage boys for the most part, it is inevitable that one of them will knock over the jar of pickles, the next kid will walk in it, and there you have the mess

Hey, you don't need to explain to me how pickle jar mishaps occur. My motto is, "It isn't really a party until half of the guests are in the bathrooms trying to wash microscopic glass shards & pickle brine out of the bloodied soles of their feet". See?



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jajdude



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ate at a "kimbap Chun gook" the other day, the first time in a long time, more than 6 months.

I had "Dol sot BE bim bap." Kimchi was one side dish, I had a bit of that, but I didn't touch the others.

Less than an hour later, a lot of that stuff had to come up and go down the toilet, that red sauce etc... not pleasant.

I used to be able to eat the stuff once a week or so. Now I know why I gave it up.

UGh.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh don't worry ms CLG is leaving korea Feb 28, 2006.

And yes, even old timers sometimes get the 'Korean blues' There are things I love about the place, things I hate about the place, and things I'll probably never get about the place.... like the necessity for sidedishes even when they are eating western food.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
Oh don't worry ms CLG is leaving korea Feb 28, 2006.

And yes, even old timers sometimes get the 'Korean blues' There are things I love about the place, things I hate about the place, and things I'll probably never get about the place.... like the necessity for sidedishes even when they are eating western food.


Um, Feb 28, 2006 was eight months ago. It's all a big delusion. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
Oh don't worry ms CLG is leaving korea Feb 28, 2006.

And yes, even old timers sometimes get the 'Korean blues' There are things I love about the place, things I hate about the place, and things I'll probably never get about the place.... like the necessity for sidedishes even when they are eating western food.


I understand what you are saying, but this one was just too far. Who doesn't want sidedishes eating ANYTHING? If it ever started back home, I am sure it would catch on in theory (never will though, too much work for home and too much money for restaurants). We do buy appetizers (for more money than a meal sometimes) which can be thought in somewhat the same way. Nachos, salads before the meal, bread before the meal, etc... I just think complaining about more choice, small snacks that come before while the meal is being prepared and being free is over the top.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as condiments go, I have a nasty habit of putting salt/kang jang on a lot of my food. Koreans are horrified that I do this. So when my husband wants to smear gochu jang on something I've cooked, I don't mind so much. If he leaves me alone about my salt, I'll leave him alone about the gochu jang^^ Once my MIL gave me some bulgogi to take home. I fried it up the next day and ate it with A1 sauce. She would've died if she saw me to do that....
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sadsac



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My issue regarding side dishes is not that they serve them, it's the huge waste factor. So often you see them being taken away after a meal and they have hardly been touched. Couldn't they just have a self serve area where if you want them you get them, if you don't, well and good. No mess, no fuss. Smile
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
My issue regarding side dishes is not that they serve them, it's the huge waste factor. So often you see them being taken away after a meal and they have hardly been touched. Couldn't they just have a self serve area where if you want them you get them, if you don't, well and good. No mess, no fuss. Smile


That's not such a bad idea. The cheaper places like Kimbap Nara do that.
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Zoidberg



Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
My issue regarding side dishes is not that they serve them, it's the huge waste factor. So often you see them being taken away after a meal and they have hardly been touched. Couldn't they just have a self serve area where if you want them you get them, if you don't, well and good. No mess, no fuss. Smile


They take them away, but there's no waste.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doh! big typo. I'm out feb 28, 2007!

But I'm just having a silly whine over something... seriously just about every longtimer I know has at least one silly pet peeve about the place....
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
I ate at a "kimbap Chun gook" the other day, the first time in a long time, more than 6 months.

I had "Dol sot BE bim bap." Kimchi was one side dish, I had a bit of that, but I didn't touch the others.

Less than an hour later, a lot of that stuff had to come up and go down the toilet, that red sauce etc... not pleasant.

I used to be able to eat the stuff once a week or so. Now I know why I gave it up.

UGh.


Damn.... What happened? Food poisioning?
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