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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Welcome back Spin. Slow, but arrived.
Still nothing from crack, eh?
Well then, in the words of Eric Cartman: "...
never mind. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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You're a big man, Spin... in a good way. Big personality too. Next time I see you in Seoul Pub, I'll buy you a drink for having the guts to post this. |
Hahahahaha! 
The guts to post an apology several weeks after the incident???
Seoul pub? loserville! hahahaha!!!!!!! |
You seem to be quite the donkeyarsed moron-he fessed up publicly and forgiveness is freely given-you should have been stillborn-make up for that mistake now
Last edited by The Man known as The Man on Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well... yeah, okay. But he was really onto something here:
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| Seoul pub? loserville! hahahaha!!!!!!! |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| While I'm not big on the "I was drunk" excuse, it's commendable to post an apology. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
| While I'm not big on the "I was drunk" excuse, it's commendable to post an apology. |
It's happened to the best of us, and I am sure Tiberious will tell you, it beats the roid rage excuse |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'll add "...don't want to become an anti-semite" to the "reasons I don't drink" list.
Must have been German beer.
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Gee, back when I was a charter member of the Politically Correct Brigade people like Spin really, really would have pissed me off and I'd have been looking for any excuse to show them up. But now that I've moved to Korea and political correctness has absolutely zero relevance to or bearing upon my life I find that guys like him make really great drinking buddies, whether we're talking about K-girls, Yanks, Krauts, Japs, stupid, fat, loud, obnoxious Canadian males or Pommie piss-heads. Indeed, I think the biggest argument we've ever had was over whether to order galbi or sam-gup-sal after downing over a dozen pints before moving on to soju. 
Seriously though, Spin's not a genuine racist, though if he were Jewish he'd probably be quite self-loathing. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I would equate anti-semitism with politically correctness.
I have said many stupid things here, so who am I to comment on a lapse of judgement?
It does seem odd that on one hand, the "I was drunk" theory has some validity, while the idea that "the truth comes out when you are drunk" also holds some water. Which prevailed here? We can hope... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure I would equate anti-semitism with politically correctness. |
When questioning whether it's a good idea to wall-off Palestinians into permanent ghettos can make me an anti-semite it's all a bit ambiguous. It's so strange in fact how whether or not I'm anti-Semitic or not can vary so much depending upon whom I'm with. At least I can feel safe knowing I'm not an anti-Semite when I'm around liberal Jewish friends. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
I'm not sure I would equate anti-semitism with politically correctness.
I have said many stupid things here, so who am I to comment on a lapse of judgement?
It does seem odd that on one hand, the "I was drunk" theory has some validity, while the idea that "the truth comes out when you are drunk" also holds some water. Which prevailed here? We can hope... |
Sure, people get pretty honest when they are drunk, but in Spin's case, it was just a naked desire to attack Hack. Apparently he was upset by Hack's suggestion that everyone who eats boshintang should be killed, so he made a very insensitive reference to another kind of "extermination." Horrible, but not on par with condoning the Holocaust or anything like that. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
| in Spin's case, it was just a naked desire to attack Hack. |
Maybe it was because hack rejected spinners naked desire? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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here it comes�..my long-awaited, sincere apology.
Sorry this is late, but���I�m sorry. Genuinely sorry. I was sorry about what I did the next day, but didn�t apologize immediately because I hoped it�d all go away ASAP. I didn�t want to prolong it. I can�t believe I did what I did! It�s definitely one of the most disgusting things I�ve ever done.
I say and do horrific things when under the influence. Man, I really gotta resist temptation and avoid Daves after a mammoth session. I�m always criticizing people who CLEARLY are posting drunk. I should take my own advice! Be honest (all of us)�..how many times have we all (a) started reading Daves after a session and (b) posted something stupid that you totally wouldn�t have done straightheaded? How many of us have typed out a lengthy drunk post full of vitriol and then thought �hmm�better not� and hit back on the browser? Usually, the �I was drunk, gimme a break� argument is insufficient. But in my case, whilst it doesn�t justify or excuse my behaviour, it does explain it. Drink turns me into a beast. I�m not an alcy (I only drink at weekends or special occasions during the week, which isn�t often) but when I do drink, I really do drink. Superman III-style, whilst still in control and rational, I just become a different person. Relationships in the past have suffered because of my stupidity with booze (and other things). It�d be an exaggeration to say �when straightheaded I don�t have a bad word to say about anything - I wouldn�t harm a fly�, but trust me, the difference between piss-drunk spin and straight spin is big. I�m OFTEN NICE when drunk, but if something sets me off, something ridiculous, something regretable, is gonna get said or done or both. I become over-confident, mouthy, argumentative, in the mood for a punch-up. Unfortunately, I do enjoy being in that condition, but really I should get a fookin grip! A coupla months ago, I was working away with some other waygooks. A drunken brall ensued between us because I started a bunch of crap. Next morning I couldn�t believe the things I�d said and done and was quick to apologize to the offended party. That incident could�ve had terrible consequences. Next morning after I PM�d Hack, I got the same feeling�.the �oh Christ, what did I do?� I just never learn.
People either accept my apologies on the basis that I�m basically a good kid. Some people ignore me forever. Depends on the person and how bad the crime. But what you�ve all gotta realize is that the guy who sent Hack that PM wasn�t the real, the normal, me.
I wanted to take the cheapest, easiest pot-shot at Hack because he posted that he thinks it�d be a great idea if dog-eaters all got sick and died. I thought that was pretty horrible, so I responded with something totally sick but it was � at the time, in that mental state � japery. In full grasp of my senses, it�s a sick thing to do. Drunk and stupid, it�s a bit of mindless fun, cheap retaliation, busting someone�s balls. Does Hack REALLY think all the expats who eat Boshintang ought to get sick and die? I doubt it, I hope not. Do I really think genocide is cool? Of course I don�t. It�s two guys being dumb as f***.
Which leads me on to��
Racism. There is no way in this world that I�m a racist. How many times have you seen a comment on Daves that went �OMG the Koreans are the most annoying, stupid, xenophobic, racist people on Earth� (even though this itself is all of those ajdectives) � see most of BWJD�s posts on Korea - followed by a protest from me? Quite a lot. I�m one of the most pro-Korea, pro-multiculturalist posters, have showed no other signs of belief in racial supremacy, so I ain�t a racist I�m afraid. To qualify as a racist, one must simply hate other races or another race (I don�t), believe that race accounts for behaviour or ability (I don�t) or believe people of another race are inferior, because of their race (I don�t). I�m not an anti-semite. Granted I don�t accept all the bull Israel gets away with uncritically and I�m certainly no fan of supporters of Israel in North America (because they�re a threat to world security � not because they�re Jewish), but I�m not a Jew-hater. I�m proud of my country for being the first to declare war on Nazi Germany. It was just a mindless, stupid, drunk act, under some provocation, which I regret. I apologize to other Jewish posters too. I�m an out of order, disgusting arsehole at times and I admit it and apologize sincerely for my actions. |
That was one of the lamest let downs I've seen on this board yet. Someone apologizing on Dave's. What has this world come to?
When the answer was "edited." I was enthralled. My eyes widened a slight bit, as they always do when I rarely read an unapologetical response to someone who gets all worked up about a PM or anything else.
Stop explaining yourself. Be a hardass. Hit women. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Qualified apologies suck. You should say "Sorry, what I did was wrong, I won't do it again". That's a real apology. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Qualified apologies suck. You should say "Sorry, what I did was wrong, I won't do it again". That's a real apology. |
Words of wisdom, folks--take note. Though I do think an explanation was due in this case. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| Enquiring minds want to know. Others are just happy knowing very little to nothing. |
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