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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Conversation with CDI HR Department Reply with quote

Discussion with CDI Human Resource Department


I'm very interested in working at CDI, but I do have some questions for you:

I looked on this website http://job.cdi.co.kr/teaching/work.asp and it said, "All instructors are required to receive up to one week of initial training at one of our corporate training centers in Korea prior to their first day of class."

1. Do instructors have to complete this one week of intitial training at one of your corporate training centeres before a labor contract is signed?

2. Korean Immigration Policies prohibited employees from working or participating in work related activities without an E2 Visa. Does your company honor and respect Korean Immigration Policies?

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We do require all of our instructors to complete training before a contract is signed. The candidate has to first pass our training, before they can become an instructor at CDI. We at CDI definitely follow the Korean Immigration policies, and therefore, you will received the E2 visa prior to training and instruction.

We hope this clarified any questions you may have had.

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The employer must submit documents to Korean Immigration Officials before the employee obtains an E2 Visa in Japan. A signed labor contract by the employee is one of those documents. Am I making an incorrect assumption?

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You are correct. The employer must submit the documents to receive the visa code for the instructor, in order for the instructor to receive the visa.

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On your website it said, "All instructors are required to receive up to one week of initial training at one of our corporate training centers in Korea prior to their first day of class." How much would I get paid for this orientation before obtaining my E2 Visa?

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The training is not paid; it guarantees your position here at CDI. Your visa would be in the steps of being processed during training.

Best,
CDI HR Center
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy, sure sounds like trouble with immigration just waiting to happen. They can pull that stuff in the US, but in Korea it comes close to an immigration violation. Wink
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Boy, sure sounds like trouble with immigration just waiting to happen. They can pull that stuff in the US, but in Korea it comes close to an immigration violation. Wink


Not even close. It is immigration violation. So if they didn't hire you for what ever reasons after one week then what?
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The training is not paid; it guarantees your position here at CDI. Your visa would be in the steps of being processed during training.


This is one of the major reasons why I advocate for contractual language that states, "The employee shall work as well as participate in any work related activities for the employer when Korean Immigration Officials have issued the employee an E2 Visa."
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braunshade



Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere better!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is that NO ONE fails training!

People have quit during training after realizing the amounnt of bs they have to do.

New hires on tourist visas go through the training all the time, then do their visa run to Japan AFTER they have begun teaching.

Some do already have their visas in hand when they arrive in Korea.

Others are Korean citizens.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

braunshade wrote:
The thing is that NO ONE fails training!


Irrelevant.

Quote:
People have quit during training after realizing the amounnt of bs they have to do.

New hires on tourist visas go through the training all the time, then do their visa run to Japan AFTER they have begun teaching.


Which is illegal.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
typical example of a Korean company violating their countries laws with impunity.

If immi was at all serious they would come down hard on CDI and fine them out the wazoo. But they turn a blind eye and who ends up paying for it? the foriegner!


Doesn't really matter: has CDI ever hired anyone other than a Kyopo or Korean? Not that I've seen. The do seem to be expanding pretty (i.e., too) fast, so maybe there are some non-Korean ancestry folk there now, but not before.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLtrainer wrote:
Grotto wrote:
typical example of a Korean company violating their countries laws with impunity.

If immi was at all serious they would come down hard on CDI and fine them out the wazoo. But they turn a blind eye and who ends up paying for it? the foriegner!


Doesn't really matter: has CDI ever hired anyone other than a Kyopo or Korean? Not that I've seen. The do seem to be expanding pretty (i.e., too) fast, so maybe there are some non-Korean ancestry folk there now, but not before.


CDI was hiring according to nationality of prospective employees, discriminating in the hiring process, which is against Korean Labor Laws. So, I believe it does matter!
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was working at CDI over a year ago, and last I looked in the mirror, I was white, same with most of the people I was in training with. So you don't have to be a kyopo to work there.

EFL Trainer:
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has CDI ever hired anyone other than a Kyopo or Korean? Not that I've seen.
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, I'm sure that by now the OP has managed to nit-pick their way out of that job. But that's OK because CDI sucks.

I visited there once and only saw Kyopos in their copyright section... I wonder what kind of quality those products of the California education system were able to produce?
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

riley wrote:
I was working at CDI over a year ago, and last I looked in the mirror, I was white, same with most of the people I was in training with. So you don't have to be a kyopo to work there.

EFL Trainer:
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has CDI ever hired anyone other than a Kyopo or Korean? Not that I've seen.


Good to know. Last time I checked them out there was only the one campus, maybe the second. The staff were all shown in a photo on the website.... and nary a whitey/other than Korean in the bunch. I didn't bother applying.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still, even though they are willing to hire non-kyopo, it's not worth the money.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why isn't it worth the money? i know they pay anywhere from 27-40,000/hr depending on qualifications. i also know they don't offer housing, and there is prep involved, but what other options are there besides your average hagwon offering 2.0-2.5 million/month?

i turned down a public school job in both gangnam and with smoe because the thought of having to be at the school for 40 hours a week for 2.2mill wasn't appealing, especially when i could use my time more efficiently Wink
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make $500 a day as a private security consultant in Iraq.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Col.Brandon wrote:
You can make $500 a day as a private security consultant in Iraq.


A friend of mine is doing that and he said, "You aren't making anything if you end up dead."
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