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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: How many 'speaking' tests can you give in 50 minutes? |
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My record is 37.
This week is the first of our twice-a-semester oral tests at my high school. The students were given the 10 questions two weeks ago. They draw 3 for the actual test.
The Grade 3 classes have their tests back to back. Last week and again this week. I'm predicting significant improvement.
I just love spending a week listening to the canned sentences the Korean teachers wrote for them? |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well I can go through an entire class in 45 minutes. Anywhere from 36 to 42 students. I have been here at this school 5 years it is pretty easy. The second and third years are the easiest since I aready know them and at least 2 students per class stare blankly and say "no englishee".
After 5 years I can whip through them pretty fast.
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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how is that possible? i can do about 15.
what questions do you ask?? |
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mishlert

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I just love spending a week listening to the canned sentences the Korean teachers wrote for them |
Next time, ask them follow up questions and watch the look on their faces ; I'm sure it will be priceless |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I can do up to 8 in 25 minutes. Usually a couple questions...in and out. I think the kids either know it or they don't. Dragging it out just prolongs the agony for everyone. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I can not possible do an oral test in less than 10 minutes, but usually it lasts about 15 though sometimes longer. |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I love how the tests are prescripted. I used to work at a hogwan where the kids had 5 phone teaching questiosn a week. If you asked the questions out of order, they would still give the answers in order.
1. What did you do yesterday? "Chocolate"
2.What does a doctor do? "A nurse" (I actually got that one)
3. What's your favorite food? "Works at hospital"
4. WHo helps a doctor? "Next to the school"
5. WHere is your house? " I see a movie" |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Follow-up questions? I think I would be shot if I did that. I was told I have to finish each class in the one class period alloted.
I did find out that if I added the word 'today' to the question "How are you?" that I would get the answer: "Today is Tuesday".
I was allowed to submit a few questions to the pre-set format. One of them was "What is your favorite subject" since I thought it was worthwhile that they be able to say the names of their subjects in English. Imagine my surprise when every single student answered, "My favorite subject is English conversation". When I brought that to the attention of their Korean teacher, he said he told them to say that because the names of their classes are too difficult to say in English.
To the question about what questions can be asked and answered in a one-minute oral test, I asked such mind bogglers as: Where are you from? How old are you? What is 7 + 6? How's the weather? (For the lower level classes.)
Just two more days of this. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: |
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I would just like to point out you folks aren't "testing" much of anything. As long as you're comfortable with that.... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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And how long did it take you to arrive at that conclusion? |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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EFLtrainer wrote: |
I would just like to point out you folks aren't "testing" much of anything. As long as you're comfortable with that.... |
Well, I am testing if they can answer the questions I put to them. If it is too canned I ask a follow-up.
I have up to 42 students in a class. I don't have time to sit around and hem and haa and try to come up wonderfully thoughtful NPR questions. I have a set of questions for each level. All questions are based on what they are are supposed to know, and what we learned in class.
I am part of their curiculum. I grade them A-F and it is recorded as part of their english grade 5% I believe. I give 2 to each level each year. Are they perfect...probably not. It does give me some gauge on how their listening skills are and their vocabulary.
I don't ask for a indepth treatise on the social significance of Min-su's trip to Daegu and the science expo.
I am very lucky at my school. I am a significant part of their lesson plans. I make 5 test questions every single term test. The questions are in English and they are specific to MY class only. So I do a little testing I think. I prefer to think of it as assessment but that is just me.
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