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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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 Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Quiz. What Are The Two Words They Can't Say On AFKN? |
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| Dev wrote: |
| theatrelily wrote: |
| Dev wrote: |
The following is a quote from one of their recent TV ads. "Tired of Korean pizza with corn? Come and build your own pizza at the Dragon Hill Lodge."
I laughed when I saw this commercial because they were being so polite to avoid offending certain people. And I'm sure the people I'm referring to didn't get it.
What are they really talking about? What are the two words?  |
Am I right? 
DO I GET A COOKIE NOW?!  |
Yes! You're the winner. The answer is Korean Pizza. The rest of you need another morning coffee.
I nearly fell out of my chair laughing when I saw that ad. I knew what they were talking about and anybody who was really listening knew. I'm sure the message was missed by many Korean ears. Very clever guys!
Sorry, Theatrelily, I am out of cookies. But you win the distinction of being the poster who is most "on the ball" today on Dave's. |
We also know who the most jackass with a foot up its ass poster is too.
But that's Dev every single day.
There isn't a smiley that can roll its eyes with enough Sturm und Drang und Donner to encapsulate the tallied moronosity of your collected postage. Bloody hell.
I'll say it aqain: you have to be cubanlord's sock. |
Thanks again for the feedback Flotsam. As any Marketing person knows, good feedback or bad feedback, it's all the same. You're getting recognition.  |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
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I wonder how Dev knows this....? Is he lipreading, or perhaps he has some friends in high places on the AFN commercial-writing staff (a place which, incidentally, I feel would benefit enormously from Otis's elegant prose)...?
But anyway, pizza. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The only pizzas worth eating in my opinion are the fabulous 'London Pizza' which, curiously, are only available in the north of England in my experiences. They feature the standard cheese and tomato topping, but are accompanied by chips (or fries, if you're American), donner meat and a fried egg. Truly delicious!! |
Sorry, but that's a Greek pizza.
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Well I havn't ever heard of them being referred to as 'Greek' pizza's. In my university town (Middlesbrough) they were always called 'London' pizza's. Now I may be a little hard of hearing, in one ear, but 'Greek'...?? Never!
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Well, donner meat is arguably Greek...
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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You guys killed Donner and put him on pizza? That's a sacriledge worse than putting corn on pizza. I hope you kept your hands off Blitzen. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Quiz. What Are The Two Words They Can't Say On AFKN? |
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| flotsam wrote: |
We also know who the most jackass with a foot up its ass poster is too.
But that's Dev every single day.
There isn't a smiley that can roll its eyes with enough Sturm und Drang und Donner to encapsulate the tallied moronosity of your collected postage. Bloody hell.
I'll say it aqain: you have to be cubanlord's sock. |
Flotsam, why you so grumpy? |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Well, donner meat is arguably Greek... |
The word 'doner' (one 'n', umlaut on the 'o') is Turkish, from the verb 'donmek', meaning 'to turn'. It refers to the motion of the spit the meat is prepared on.
I imagine both Greeks and Turks would be united in shock over hearing that the word is Greek.
Edit: Corn on pizza doesn't bother me. In Turkey, I used to love pizza with walnuts and beyaz peynir (feta cheese) and hellim peynir (a Cyprus cheese that doesn't melt). In Chicago, a local shop used to do a Mongolian pizza with snow peas in the pod. I know for unusual toppings.
And I must say that my local pizzeria here, Papacino's, makes a really good, not bland at all, pizza. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Quiz. What Are The Two Words They Can't Say On AFKN? |
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| kermo wrote: |
| flotsam wrote: |
We also know who the most jackass with a foot up its ass poster is too.
But that's Dev every single day.
There isn't a smiley that can roll its eyes with enough Sturm und Drang und Donner to encapsulate the tallied moronosity of your collected postage. Bloody hell.
I'll say it aqain: you have to be cubanlord's sock. |
Flotsam, why you so grumpy? |
Me no grumpy. Me have standards. Me also like see patterns. Maybe(probably) dey no sock and puppetmaster. But damn--dey write da same stupid shit.
And one does recognize da shit on the sidewalk and one tells others not to step in it. Dat just polite.
(And yes, god did give me this right.  ) |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Quiz. What Are The Two Words They Can't Say On AFKN? |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| kermo wrote: |
Flotsam, why you so grumpy? |
Me no grumpy. Me have standards. Me also like see patterns. Maybe(probably) dey no sock and puppetmaster. But damn--dey write da same stupid *beep*.
And one does recognize da *beep* on the sidewalk and one tells others not to step in it. Dat just polite.
(And yes, god did give me this right. ) |
Ah, so you speak Muppet too. I'm glad you recognized my "pidgin." Is there any end to your talent? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Quiz. What Are The Two Words They Can't Say On AFKN? |
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Ah, so you speak Muppet too. I'm glad you recognized my "pidgin." Is there any end to your talent? |
Sadly, yes. There...just there...over the horizon. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
You guys killed Donner and put him on pizza? That's a sacriledge worse than putting corn on pizza. I hope you kept your hands off Blitzen. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_party |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
You guys killed Donner and put him on pizza? That's a sacriledge worse than putting corn on pizza. I hope you kept your hands off Blitzen. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_party |
You missed your chance...what is the name of the magical land just over the horizon? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
You guys killed Donner and put him on pizza? That's a sacriledge worse than putting corn on pizza. I hope you kept your hands off Blitzen. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_party |
You missed your chance. |
I did? Who mentioned the Donner Party before I did? I know my comic timing was off a bit, but that's because I was busy staring at myself in the bathroom mirror, reciting the closing lines from Raging Bull.
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| What is the name of the magical land just over the horizon? |
BUNDANG!
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| Woland wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Well, donner meat is arguably Greek... |
The word 'doner' (one 'n', umlaut on the 'o') is Turkish, from the verb 'donmek', meaning 'to turn'. It refers to the motion of the spit the meat is prepared on.
I imagine both Greeks and Turks would be united in shock over hearing that the word is Greek.
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Blah, blah, blah...donner is one of the accepted spellings in English. Besides, donners are arguably gyros, hence donners are arguably Greek. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Blah, blah, blah...donner is one of the accepted spellings in English. |
Where? Among the illiterati? I just checked a number of online dictionaries and got results like this from Cambridge:
"donner was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary"
or this from Merriam-Webster (same result for American Heritage, too):
"One entry found for Donner Pass."
or this from dictionary.com:
"No results found for donner."
or this from yourdictionary.com:
"Sorry, no words matching "donner" were found."
or this from thefreedictionary.com:
"Donner is not available in the general English dictionary and thesaurus."
Or this from the MSN Encarta dictionary:
No results found for "donner"
Who knew there were so many ways to say, "You're wrong."
The only dictionary that had it was Food Lexicon, where that spelling is marked as German, with the English variant being 'doner'
I will confess that most of these dictionaries, especially the American ones do not recognize 'doner' either. But Cambridge does recognize 'doner kebab'.
All this suggests that the word is foreign, and should be spelled as in its language of origin - and that spelling is 'doner'.
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Besides, donners are arguably gyros, hence donners are arguably Greek. |
The two foods are the same, but the words aren't. But I know, it's easy to confuse Turkish and Greek; they're so close to each other.  |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Woland wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Blah, blah, blah...donner is one of the accepted spellings in English. |
Where? Among the illiterati? I just checked a number of online dictionaries and got results like this from Cambridge:
"donner was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary"
or this from Merriam-Webster (same result for American Heritage, too):
"One entry found for Donner Pass."
or this from dictionary.com:
"No results found for donner."
or this from yourdictionary.com:
"Sorry, no words matching "donner" were found."
or this from thefreedictionary.com:
"Donner is not available in the general English dictionary and thesaurus."
Or this from the MSN Encarta dictionary:
No results found for "donner"
Who knew there were so many ways to say, "You're wrong."
The only dictionary that had it was Food Lexicon, where that spelling is marked as German, with the English variant being 'doner'
I will confess that most of these dictionaries, especially the American ones do not recognize 'doner' either. But Cambridge does recognize 'doner kebab'.
All this suggests that the word is foreign, and should be spelled as in its language of origin - and that spelling is 'doner'.
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Besides, donners are arguably gyros, hence donners are arguably Greek. |
The two foods are the same, but the words aren't. But I know, it's easy to confuse Turkish and Greek; they're so close to each other. |
You know, there's this really cool invention called the Internet. It's got these snazzy thingies, 'search engines', that let you look words up like in a dictionary, but better because it shows you how languages are actually used by their speakers...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22donner+kebab%22&btnG=Search
"Results 1 - 10 of about 15,400 for "donner kebab"." (if you set preferences to search for English language pages only)
Yeah, who knew there would be so many ways to say, "You're wrong"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_kebab
"The d�ner kebab (usually doner kebab; sometimes donner kebab; the Arabic name "shawarma" is also commonly used) with salad and sauce is also a very popular dish in both the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland. "
PS. Check what the Wikipedia article says about how Germans call their donners. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
You know, there's this really cool invention called the Internet. It's got these snazzy thingies, 'search engines', that let you look words up like in a dictionary, but better because it shows you how languages are actually used by their speakers...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22donner+kebab%22&btnG=Search
"Results 1 - 10 of about 15,400 for "donner kebab"." (if you set preferences to search for English language pages only)
Yeah, who knew there would be so many ways to say, "You're wrong"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%B6ner_kebab
"The d�ner kebab (usually doner kebab; sometimes donner kebab; the Arabic name "shawarma" is also commonly used) with salad and sauce is also a very popular dish in both the United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland. "
PS. Check what the Wikipedia article says about how Germans call their donners. |
Sigh. If they want to know how to spell words, people go to dictionaries, not search engines. Why? Because even the semi-literate can use the internet and put up web pages.
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,150,000 for rediculous.
Results 1 - 10 of about 22,600,000 for definately.
You should know this from hanging around Dave's.
Interestingly, if you look more closely at your top ten list for 'donner kebab', you'll find some interesting things.
Site #2 leads to a fatal error page (even in cache), not to anything about doner kebabs.
Site #6 is for a search of a recipe site producing these results:
Your search resulted in
0 category matches,
0 title matches
(Just for the record, you get the same result with 'doner kebab')
The video at site #9 is in Dutch
Site #10 is in Spanish.
But most of all, the wikipedia site you refer to highlights the primary spelling as 'doner'.
And while we're doing google searches, you might check this:
Results 1 - 10 of about 297,000 for "doner kebab". That's right - about 20X hits for the one 'n' spelling. And every link on the first page leads to something really about doner kebab in English. I guess that's where the usage is.
I will grant you that some people do spell it with two 'n's, and that the spelling hasn't been standardized in English. But, with one dictionary already using the one 'n' spelling, more will follow, especially with history and numbers on its side. Unless you want to start a movement for the 'nn' spelling.
I don't get your point about the German section of the wikipedia page.
PS I understand that we have been nominated for a prize for stupidest argument on Dave's this year, but am willing to bet that rteacher or meegook will beat us out with one of their threads. |
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