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CBP

Joined: 15 May 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: Classroom Rules: How and What? |
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What are your classroom rules, and how did you introduce them and then enforce them?
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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1. Only speak English.
2. No touching (covers hitting, kicking, pinching, pestering, etc)
3. Stay in your seat.
4. Listen to and look at the teacher. If other students are talking, listen to and look at them.
I ususally have these translated into Korean. When a kid breaks one, make him get up and read it to the class in both English and Korean. Depending on the age, give a couple o warnings. It will be hard for the kdis at first, but don't budge. After a month, you should have them in line. They aren't used to rules or discipline so it will take a little getting used to for them. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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kat2 wrote: |
1. Only speak English.
2. No touching (covers hitting, kicking, pinching, pestering, etc)
3. Stay in your seat.
4. Listen to and look at the teacher. If other students are talking, listen to and look at them.
I ususally have these translated into Korean. When a kid breaks one, make him get up and read it to the class in both English and Korean. Depending on the age, give a couple o warnings. It will be hard for the kdis at first, but don't budge. After a month, you should have them in line. They aren't used to rules or discipline so it will take a little getting used to for them. |
Are you serious? You must not work at a middle or high school. |
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jstrain
Joined: 03 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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kat2 wrote: |
1. Only speak English.
2. No touching (covers hitting, kicking, pinching, pestering, etc)
3. Stay in your seat.
4. Listen to and look at the teacher. If other students are talking, listen to and look at them.
I ususally have these translated into Korean. When a kid breaks one, make him get up and read it to the class in both English and Korean. Depending on the age, give a couple o warnings. It will be hard for the kdis at first, but don't budge. After a month, you should have them in line. They aren't used to rules or discipline so it will take a little getting used to for them. |
So the first thing you do is break rule #1? |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, i'm used to teaching elementary kids, which I prefer. They might be wild, but at least they aren't zombies yet. Watching my 6th grade elem students go to MS was sad. Let the soul-sucking begin.
I make them read it in English and Korean the first few times. Then the kids know what the rule means and I go to English only. I try to have an immersion classroom as much as possible, but its never going to complete. |
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jstrain
Joined: 03 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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kat2 wrote: |
Yeah, i'm used to teaching elementary kids, which I prefer. They might be wild, but at least they aren't zombies yet. Watching my 6th grade elem students go to MS was sad. Let the soul-sucking begin.
I make them read it in English and Korean the first few times. Then the kids know what the rule means and I go to English only. I try to have an immersion classroom as much as possible, but its never going to complete. |
I figured how and why you introduced your rules. It's a good plan. It just looked funny. I couldn't resist. What books do you use for your immersion program? |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Very Simple:
1. No Korean.
2. No Crazy (this can encompass almost any form of bad behavior)
My school has this sticker-reward system so I give everyone a star (=1 sticker) on the board at the start of the class. It gets erased for breaking either rule. A star gets added for winning a game or doing an especially good job answering a question or whatever. At the end of the class, I hand out the stickers.
The kids don't know that much English usually so it's generally quiet and under control. I never kick out the really bad kids, but will draw a circle on the board and make them put their nose on the board and stand there for 5 minutes. It only has to happen once usually, with all the other kids laughing and saying, "dirty" for them to stay in line after that. Cruel, but effective. |
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bosintang

Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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If the students are old enough and can speak English well enough, how about have them make the rules? It's a good chance to test their level of English and good intro class.
Some rules I suggest not doing (others will disagree):
- No speaking Korean - this can cause very negative feelings, instead have a policy where speaking English is strongly encouraged without explicitly installing a no Korean rule Eg "Rule #1: Lets Speak English!"
- No discipline "chances" (3 strikes and you're out kind of thing) - if bad behaviour is bad enough that it warrants action, do it immediately. |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think its always good to keep rules positive. If your kids level of Englis is good enough, No Touching should be "Keep your hands to yourself" or something.
Sometimes the kids need to able to speak Korean. If they are hurt or sick or someone said something really mean to them, I'll let them try and tell me in Korean or go get soemone who can understand. However, they know that in normal situations I will only respond when they speak english to me.
Books? Well, unfortunatley for hte immersion thing, I'm in a public school now. However, at the hogwans i used to work at, I was of course forced to teach whatever book they gave me. However, the books never had anything but English in them. I usually used the book as a springboard when possible. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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kat2 wrote: |
I think its always good to keep rules positive. If your kids level of Englis is good enough, No Touching should be "Keep your hands to yourself" or something. |
I still can't believe someone would try to or could enforce a rule like that in Korea. Maybe it's less of an issue if all my classes are of the same age and gender, but, unless they start playfighting while I'm trying to teach, that one falls into the category of 'there's no point in getting upset at Koreans for acting like Koreans'. |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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I enforce it as needed. I mean they can hug each otehr, hold hands and other normal stuff. But no touching prevents me from having to list hitting, kicking, poking, pinching, grabbing genitals, and all the otehr things Korean kids think there's nothing wrong with.
They'renot dumb. They know the line. |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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bosintang wrote: |
If the students are old enough and can speak English well enough, how about have them make the rules? It's a good chance to test their level of English and good intro class.
Some rules I suggest not doing (others will disagree):
- No speaking Korean - this can cause very negative feelings, instead have a policy where speaking English is strongly encouraged without explicitly installing a no Korean rule Eg "Rule #1: Lets Speak English!"
- No discipline "chances&qu | | | |