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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: VANK declares war on Gutenberg (and the truth) |
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A Korean non-profit organization looks to launch a campaign this week to claim the country was the first to create the extant movable metal print book.
The Voluntary Agency Network of Korea (VANK) plans to open up a Web site (jikji.prkorea.com) to inform the world of the nation�s Jikji, the oldest book made by movable metal printing methods in this planet.
Jikji, an abbreviated title of a Buddhist document, was printed here in 1377 to predate Western tradition _ Johannes Gutenberg�s printing of the Bible _ by 78 years.
�As was officially recognized by the Unite Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization in 2001, Jikji is indisputably the oldest extant movable metal print book,�� VANK official Park Gi-tae said.
�But many Western Internet pages, textbooks and encyclopedias argue Gutenberg was the first to invent the significant technology. We plan to let the world know the reality,�� he said.
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you invent something and share it with nobody then does it count?
There's clear historical evidence that boatloads of Welsh people landed and settled in America well before Columbus. But most died, some intermarried with local tribes and a couple of "heretics" made it back to Europe to be but footnotes in unbelieved journal entries. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
If you invent something and share it with nobody then does it count?
There's clear historical evidence that boatloads of Welsh people landed and settled in America well before Columbus. But most died, some intermarried with local tribes and a couple of "heretics" made it back to Europe to be but footnotes in unbelieved journal entries. |
I was told that my great great great great great great great great great great great great X 10 grandfather first invented the first Xerox copying machine. Did Koreans file the invention to the Patent Office?
Seriously, that's very significant news if Korean's claim flies because the most important invention during last Millennium was the printing press. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Seriously, that's very significant news if Korean's claim flies because the most important invention during last Millennium was the printing press. |
Read the rest of the blog entry.
Korea made an adaptation to a preexisting piece of technology. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa, I thought they were declaring war on Steve Guttenberg!
What, they don't like Police Academy movies?
Anyway, who cares?
The Gutenburg invention was made known to others.
It's like the Vikings made it to North America far before Columbus, but nobody cares because they didn't bother to tell anyone about it. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| However, Park said VANK has no an immediate plan to associate the campaign with efforts to get back a volume of Jikji from France, which was taken by a French diplomat at the end of the Chosun Dynasty. |
Classic VANK -- why bother doing something that matters when there are pressing issues of spelling and footnotes to be addressed first? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Kind of like the inventor of the fuel injection system claiming he or she invented the car. Gutenberg invented the printing press and Koreans invented one of its parts, the metal type. It's that simple. So, they may have a book that outdates Gutenberg's bibles. Apples and oranges...the book wasn't printed on a press. Besides, it's been well published already that Koreans perfected the movable type, which was invented by the Chinese, so I really don't see why VANK is wasting its resources on this. |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I think VANK is a Bobbybrobby-esque satire group designed to wind foreigners up. They can't be serious with their east-sea etc. bullshi.. can they? |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Your most cryptic post yet. |
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jaganath69

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Your most cryptic post yet. |
Hell, I get it. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: |
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While typing up a book from 1914 today I noticed the following:
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Japanese_Empire_Including_Korea:_Historical_Sketch
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| According to Mr. S. Wells Williams (Middle Kingdom, vol. 1, p. 603): 'The honor of being the first inventor of movable types undoubtedly belongs to a Chinese blacksmith named Pi Shing, who lived about A.D. 1000, and printed books with them nearly 500 yrs. before Gutenberg cut his matrices at Mains. They were made of plastic clay, hardened by fire after the characters had been cut on the soft surface of a plate of clay in which they were moulded. The porcelain types were then set up in a frame of iron partitioned off by strips, and inserted in a cement of wax, resin, and lime to fasten them down. The printing was done by rubbing, an when completed the typed were loosened by welting the cement, and made clean for another impression. This invention seems never to have developed to any practical application in superseding block printing (adopted from the discovery of Fungtau, in the 10th cent.). The Emperor Kanghi ordered (about 1722) approximately 250 thousand copper types to be engraved for printing publications of the Government, and these works are now highly prized for their beauty. The cupidity of his successors led to melting these types into cash, but his grandson Kienlung directed the casting of a large font of lead types for government use.' |
I hope I didn't mistype a number in there. |
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