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Classes in English From 2015 Without Native English Speakers
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Classes in English From 2015 Without Native English Speakers Reply with quote

Classes to Be Conducted in English From 2015
English teachers in schools nationwide will have to conduct English classes without the help of native English speaking teachers by 2015. According to the plan, school English teachers will have to begin to conduct classes in English in 2009, and the government aims at making all schools use only English in their classes by 2015.

Koreans are poor in English. Of 227 countries, South Korea only ranked 93rd on TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language) scores last year. Among the 32 Asian countries, it ranked 16th. "From next year until 2015, 10,000 English teachers across the nation will receive intensive English courses so that every English teacher will be able to carry out classes in English."
By Park Chung-a, Korea Times (November 3, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200611/kt2006110317180110160.htm
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your title is misleading because.......

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The number of native English assistant teachers from elementary school to high school will increase to 2,900 by 2010.


hence - the number of native English teachers will increase - we will just be de-moted to "assistant teachers" instead of "English teachers" - saving the government money - as if we are only "assistants - our salary will decrease.....

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From next year until 2015, 10,000 English teachers across the nation will receive intensive English courses so that every English teacher will be able to carry out classes in English.��


about time the "Korean English teachers at the public schools learnt how to teach English - many have "Education degrees" and "English degrees" but are still useless at English conversation - and just waste their time at the school - about time they will be trained properly....

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EBS Plus 3, a satellite TV channel of the state-run EBS, will be an exclusive channel for providing foreign language education including English by next year.


hope its better than the crappy CD's the schools have been using for the past 10 years.......

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The government will actively seek to employ Korean residents and Korean adoptees from English-speaking countries as assistant teachers. To be qualified for a position, a university degree and E-2 visa are obligatory.


I knew this will eventually happen - the government wants to save money by employing Gyopos and and "koreans who have lived abroad" instead of wasting all the money of importing REAL native teachers... paying the accomodation etc and all the other benefits..... the Gyopos have been pushing for this for a long time....

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Schools, which run extra English classes after school, will also actively employ teachers for the classes from English users in multi-cultural families, foreign students studying in Korea and South Koreans with a great command of English.


OK - your title is probably correct - our jobs are being taken over by Gyopos and koreans who have lived abroad - and any native teacher who remains and remains teaching in the public schools will just be an assistant on a much smaller salary.......

doesn't bother me - I will leave during the next couple of years - and koreans "English usage" will just become worse under these money-saving initiatives.........
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll believe it when I see it.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it.

I can't see anyone being worried about job security either. This is another one of those let's make a big announcement, get everyone excited, but not follow through with any planning until one month before the deadline things.

yeah good luck.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean mothers have the last word on anything being permanently adopted. If they don't have confidence in the english levels of who is teaching their kids, then there will not be any drop off in the hiring of native teachers. And the 'keeping up with the Kims' mindset is not going to go away for a long, long time, if at all. In other words, there will always be the 'Did you here that Minsu is studying with a foreigner?', 'Oh really, I worry about the accent that my Jeesun is getting with the Korean', gasp-panic-gossip, etc...
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality certainly has a lot of time on his hands, I wonder if he has a life.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
Real Reality certainly has a lot of time on his hands, I wonder if he has a life.


Until androids are considered to be alive, I do not think that will be possible.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone sniff the foul hand of the KTA behind this? I'm sure once URI are rolled and all those simpering KJI-kissbutts are deported or hanged for treason this will fall by the wayside. But honestly, where do they think they will get the requisite amount of competent Koreans to fill these positions? Training through EBS? C'mon, 55 minutes of pure Korean translation of a weighty English text does not a teacher make.
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To whom ever thought of this idea, I want to send a quick

Bravo your life!

You've given a well-being fresh effort.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plan and the intent seem to not be well connected. First, I think the Seoul government just launched some initiative to hire almost a thousand foreigners for the public school system. It would appear now they're all to go once one single cohort of children make it through k-7.

More to the point, the intent seems to be to save parents hagwon costs. How will having Koreans (be they real Koreans or these mysterious legions of adoptees who will some how make up the ranks vacated by whitey) teaching Koreans in public school accomplish this? Koreans will deliver superior English education and speaking ability to Korean children and parents will be so satisfied with this that they won't throw their kids in hagwon?

The whole EBS initiative a couple years ago was meant to drive expensive hagwons into the sea... like that worked.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Does anyone sniff the foul hand of the KTA behind this?


Why them? Does this initiative imply the teachers have to do more work and more training before they're let back into the classroom? I thought the KTA wants to go the other way.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Institute a body of fluent teachers across the board through overseas study and intakes of English majors so as to rid the need of native instructors?

1,What happens to those ensconced teachers that don't meet whatever standard?

2,Who'll check how much English is used?

3,What about the current teach-by-test-not -produce system?

Need one go on.
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SeoulMan6



Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Location: Gangwon-do

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a brilliant move. It will take time, but the governement is taking steps to educate their own teachers and have them take over the English education in the elementary, middle, and high schools.

Think about it, when you learned French, Spanish, or German back home, did they import native speakers to teach you? Heck no! All my classes were taught by (semi?) fluent teachers from my local area.

There will be jobs for qualified EFL teachers for years to come, but I have no problem seeing the Koreans take over as it may change the whole concept of English as a secondary subject to a more important one. I also have no problem getting rid of unprofessional foreign teachers who don't provide much education for their students.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I was told by my German teacher in college research shows that early immersion is the best way to teach a new language.

Korea has not adopted this for the same reasons American schools have not adopted this. It's just easier to keep doing things the same way. My job is secure for a few years if I want to stay in a public school and if not I'm sure the Hagwons will still be hiring foreigners.

-Jeff
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulMan6 wrote:
Think about it, when you learned French, Spanish, or German back home, did they import native speakers to teach you? Heck no! All my classes were taught by (semi?) fluent teachers from my local area.

One of my best French teachers was "imported" from France.
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