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markgong
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Will being a chinese-american hinder the job hunt? |
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Hi, I'm brand new to the board and looking to teach English in either Korea or Japan. The problem is that I've heard that being a chinese-american may cause a problem for me. Schools who want a "western image" are more likely to hire a caucasian over myself. Is this true? Another problem is that I was born in China and moved to the states when I was 8. I have been in the states for the last 17 years, have no accent, and is just as competent as any other candidate. Does this make me a native-speaker that so many schools require?
Thanks, I know those are some loaded questions, but any help is welcome.
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, some schools want blond, blue eyed teachers. Just be patient. It make take slighly longer for you to get a job. Shouldn't be a major problem though.
You need a passport and degree from the US, Canada, UK, etc. If you have those, you should be fine. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I knew a Chinese-Australian who was working for significantly less than your average native speaker - 1.5m - and his hagwon really made him earn it. He didn't stay more than a year. Married a Japanese girl and moved over there. I don't know if he's having a better time of it in Japan.
You can get a job, surely. But it is going to be harder for you to find a good salary. And I suggest you don't let them treat you like an Asian employee when get there.
Good luck, manl |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been in the states for the last 17 years, have no accent, and is just as competent as any other candidate. Does this make me a native-speaker that so many schools require? |
You need to get an education. Everyone has an accent. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I am Chinese-British, I've had no problem whatsoever landing jobs. |
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markgong
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been in the states for the last 17 years, have no accent, and is just as competent as any other candidate. Does this make me a native-speaker that so many schools require? |
You need to get an education. Everyone has an accent. |
Hmm...I hope I don't meet you in Korea. I didn't think I need to specify I have no "asian accent," where I mix Rs and Ls, and have trouble pronouncing certain words. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| On the upside if you wish to teach privates an immigration officer or apartment security guy is unlikely to give you a second glance when you go off to teach. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't think I need to specify I have no "asian accent," |
But I bet you do. Even amongst people who were born in the U.S., one can sometimes tell whether a person is Asian, white, or of African descent based on their accent and speech pattern.
I worked in restaurants during college and could often tell whether someone was White, Asian, or of African decent on the phone. When they came to pick up their food, usually my thoughts were correct. I bet I am not the only one who can confirm this.
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markgong
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| If you say so. I would appreciate it if you stop hyjacking this thread JZer. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't think I need to specify I have no "asian accent," |
But I bet you do. Even amongst people who were born in the U.S., one can sometimes tell whether a person is Asia, white, or of African decent based on their accent and speech pattern.
I worked in resturants during college and could often tell whether someone was white, asian, or of african decent on the phone. When they came to pick up their food, usually my thoughts were correct. I bet I am not the only one who can confirm this. |
I'm sure you often believe your thoughts to be correct. I too hope I never have to meet you. |
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sock

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I worked in resturants during college and could often tell whether someone was white, asian, or of african decent on the phone. When they came to pick up their food, usually my thoughts were correct. |
Hmm, you worked in "resturants" and you could tell people's race/ethnicity over the phone. Was this at Pizza Hut or the Psychic Friends Network cafeteria?
Guess what, I can do better than that. I can tell that you're a moron and I don't even have to hear your voice.  |
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simpleminds

Joined: 04 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Or read any more of your posts.
OP: be careful of the big franchises: Kid's Club, Wonderland, Kid's Herald, etc. I've heard most of the SLP branches are OK. If you don't want to work at a haggie, try a public school. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Near Seoul
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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You'll land something, but it might take a bit more time sadly...
As long as you have an american passport and education, you'll be fine.
A lot of the recruiters don't even bother reading cover emails, just look at the photo and MAYBe at your resume....so mention these things in BOLD TYPE perhaps in your emails |
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markgong
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:52 am Post subject: |
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It's weird growing up facing racism because I didn't know the language when I first arrived in the states...but now it sounds like I have to detail with it all over again.
Thanks for all the advice guys, please keep 'em coming. |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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But I bet you do. Even amongst people who were born in the U.S., one can sometimes tell whether a person is Asia, white, or of African decent based on their accent and speech pattern.
I worked in resturants during college and could often tell whether someone was white, asian, or of african decent on the phone. When they came to pick up their food, usually my thoughts were correct. I bet I am not the only one who can confirm this. |
Hmm, your own English doesn't seem to be particularly good... are you sure you are a native speaker? |
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