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My Korean colleagues at GEPIK. Grrr

 
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: My Korean colleagues at GEPIK. Grrr Reply with quote

I gave the following letter to my K co-teacher today.

Mr. Kim,

Too often children are arriving to my special classes late. Sometimes they are more than thirty minutes late. I think that this situation is completely unacceptable. I have the children only for a short time each week. The home room teachers have them for 90% of the time. Yet they tell their students to clean their classroom during my teaching time. I am very insulted by this, and I want it to stop.

Children should not be late for (or absent from) my classes without my permission. Would you please ask all teachers to respect my teaching time.

Thank you for your help.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleaning time is part of the school timetable. At my school it is from 3-3.30pm.
Why are you having a class during the designated cleaning time?

What response did you get to your letter?

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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ilovebdt wrote:

What response did you get to your letter?


Probably zero because the messenger translated it for him as " dear principal, today is a sunny day, isn't it? Bye bye".
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't elementary school classes 40 minutes? If they're coming 30 minutes late just don't let them in. You should also talk to the homeroom teachers directly. Do you get along with them? If they're letting their kids bunk off from your class they probably have no respect for you or perhaps really dispise you being there. It would be impossible to carry any authority if your kids are allowed to do this, so if it doesn't stop you should simply quit and let the principal know exactly why. Then you can explain things to GEPIK. Complaining now will only breed greater resentment towards you.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: My Korean colleagues at GEPIK. Grrr Reply with quote

Bingo wrote:
I gave the following letter to my K co-teacher today.

Mr. Kim,

Too often children are arriving to my special classes late. Sometimes they are more than thirty minutes late. I think that this situation is completely unacceptable. I have the children only for a short time each week. The home room teachers have them for 90% of the time. Yet they tell their students to clean their classroom during my teaching time. I am very insulted by this, and I want it to stop.

Children should not be late for (or absent from) my classes without my permission. Would you please ask all teachers to respect my teaching time.

Thank you for your help.



What's wrong with confronting the teachers' involved and telling them to NOT to cut into your time? That seems logical, yes?
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Aren't elementary school classes 40 minutes? If they're coming 30 minutes late just don't let them in.


Or just make them do permanent pushups in the corner until the end of the lesson like I do. They'll soon complain to the other teachers that getting to your class early is more important.

but yeah. just say something to the teachers responsible. Most coworkers are quite understanding.
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work in the boonies. None of my colleagues (with the exception of my co-teacher) speaks English. Directly speaking to them about the matter is impossible.

Here's what grinds me. Children aren't stupid. They pick up on things. Here's the messages that they receive:

1) The F/T isn't a real teacher.
2) Attending his classes isn't that important.
3) We don't respect him, so you don't have to either.
4) English is not important.
5) You can mess around in the F/T's class, because its not that important anyway. If it was, I wouldn't have you clean the classroom during his classtime.
6) Foreigners aren't as deserving of respect as Koreans are.
7) And since they aren't as deserving of respect, you can feel free to mock them when you see them on the street. And when your F/T tells you to stop talking in class, obeying him is optional. (Remember he's not a real teacher, anyway.)

How can the Korean teachers not realize the impllications of what they are doing? Or do they, and simply don't care. Or, maybe they take quiet satisfaction in disrespecting the F/T and chuckle about it over soju.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
the messenger translated it for him as " dear principal, today is a sunny day, isn't it? Bye bye".

Not "sunny"... "Shiny".
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of my first job. A Korean co-worker (24 years old) told me that I was a "poor teacher". Now this person was maybe 4 months on the job and also never attended any formal training. So, I replied that nobody who worked at the hogwon was a "real teacher" but instead adequate babysitters. Well, my response didn't go over too well Laughing But c'est la vie. Hogwons will always be businesses first and educators last.


Bingo wrote:
I work in the boonies. None of my colleagues (with the exception of my co-teacher) speaks English. Directly speaking to them about the matter is impossible.

Here's what grinds me. Children aren't stupid. They pick up on things. Here's the messages that they receive:

1) The F/T isn't a real teacher.
2) Attending his classes isn't that important.
3) We don't respect him, so you don't have to either.
4) English is not important.
5) You can mess around in the F/T's class, because its not that important anyway. If it was, I wouldn't have you clean the classroom during his classtime.
6) Foreigners aren't as deserving of respect as Koreans are.
7) And since they aren't as deserving of respect, you can feel free to mock them when you see them on the street. And when your F/T tells you to stop talking in class, obeying him is optional. (Remember he's not a real teacher, anyway.)

How can the Korean teachers not realize the impllications of what they are doing? Or do they, and simply don't care. Or, maybe they take quiet satisfaction in disrespecting the F/T and chuckle about it over soju.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo wrote:
I work in the boonies. None of my colleagues (with the exception of my co-teacher) speaks English. Directly speaking to them about the matter is impossible.

Here's what grinds me. Children aren't stupid. They pick up on things. Here's the messages that they receive:

1) The F/T isn't a real teacher.
2) Attending his classes isn't that important.
3) We don't respect him, so you don't have to either.
4) English is not important.
5) You can mess around in the F/T's class, because its not that important anyway. If it was, I wouldn't have you clean the classroom during his classtime.
6) Foreigners aren't as deserving of respect as Koreans are.
7) And since they aren't as deserving of respect, you can feel free to mock them when you see them on the street. And when your F/T tells you to stop talking in class, obeying him is optional. (Remember he's not a real teacher, anyway.)

How can the Korean teachers not realize the impllications of what they are doing? Or do they, and simply don't care. Or, maybe they take quiet satisfaction in disrespecting the F/T and chuckle about it over soju.


You clearly know what the score is. I'd very strongly consider finding another job, giving them 30 days notice, and then making it very clear to your principal and GEPIK why you're leaving. Get a Korean to translate a polite but firm letter for you and hand it to the principal directly.
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