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Need some advice on teaching privates

 
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j-gro



Joined: 16 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Need some advice on teaching privates Reply with quote

I recently started my first private: two 10 year-old girls for 40,000 won/hour. (I know that's lower pay than what some people suggest is a minimum on this site, but right now I have very few private teaching opportunities, and so I'm taking what I can get.) My problem is when I taught the first lesson, the parent who hired me added another student, with no mention of extra pay. I have a feeling this woman thinks that because she's paying me for an hour, that she can throw whatever students she wants my way during that time. She's a kindergarten owner (I do another part-time shift at her school), and so she probably views me as an employee, and not as a tutor with set rates.

I'm not quite sure what to do here. I don't have any other contacts for private teaching so I don't want to piss off this woman, but at the same time I don't want to be taken advantage of. What rules do the rest of you live by when it comes to teaching privates?

Also, how can I get more contacts without becoming a heat score? I got this one as a pass-off from a friend who couldn't do it, but I have yet to be approached by any desperate parents at the grocery store or bus stop, like I've heard happens to other teachers.

Anyways, any advice out there would be great, as I'm feeling a little lost right now.
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mrd



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: fluorescent-filled paradise

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me see if I am understanding correctly.

You agreed to do privates for the woman that you work for and now you're upset because she is now taking advantage of you by throwing a third student at you with no additional pay.

What kind of visa do you have? Are you allowed legally to teach privates? If so, then you are in a place to discuss a raise for your privates since she is probably charging the parent of the third child a premium for such a low teacher-to-student ratio (and in the process further screwing you out of the money you deserve).

If you have an E-2 visa and are therefore not legally supposed to be teaching private lessons, then you have (IMHO) created a difficult position for yourself to demand more money. This is becuase your boss knows you are participating in illegal activity and can hold this against you (by threatening to report you). She probably wouldn't becuase she'd lose a valuable teacher, but the possibility is at least there, and should be reason enough to avoid this messy combination.

If I were you, I would kindly decline any further lessons especially if you have an E-2 visa. In the future, don't mix business with pleasure (read privates).
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I strongly advice you to set up strong rules of engagement.

My price changes depending on number of students in the extra person, it becomes cheaper per group, but the total cost is higher.

Also make a 4 week schedule and let them pay up front, if they do not show up, you got paid for your preparations at least, and for the fact you reserved your hour.

People will not approach you until they are aware you do privates, so if you want more you really need to do some networking. Don't be afraid of telling them you do "some" privates if the shedule permits.

I also ask 40.000 for a single students, per hour.

But you will get flamed on this board for mentioning the "p"-word, pm me if you are unsure about certain details, i might have some advise.
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sock



Joined: 07 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't have any other contacts for private teaching so I don't want to piss off this woman, but at the same time I don't want to be taken advantage of.


A few points. First of all, she's ALREADY taking advantage of you. Second, why would you care if you piss someone off who is (at the very least) trying to screw you over? Third, you are wrong in your assumption that you don't have any other contacts for private teaching.

Check out other job boards that list part-time opportunities. Apply to whatever looks good. Walk around the neighborhood/closest subway station/taikwondo hakwon/etc. and look for moms with kids. Give them a piece of candy and your business card with a phone number. If you'd rather teach university students, go to whatever university is nearest to you and, again, let people know that you're an English teacher, a VERY BUSY one with barely enough time to squeeze them in. Go to a busy coffee shop. Talk to people you see who have English textbooks.

Frankly, you have a ton of options but you're not bothering to do the work that it takes to get what you want. If you are standing around waiting for people to start throwing money at you then you're going to be waiting for a long time.

You need to be more assertive. It's your life. Don't let your boss get away with screwing you over, because you really don't need to put up with it. Stop making excuses to yourself that you have to depend on her when you're really just too lazy or shy to round up your own customers. If you want something, you have to be willing to go get it.

Personally, I'd ditch any and all privates you have lined up through your boss. She doesn't need to think that she has any extra power over you. Stop acting on your feelings of desperation. You're just asking for trouble.


EDIT: Okay, so maybe the business card thing wasn't my most brilliant idea ever. But my point is that you need to go out and talk to people, network your butt off. There are tons of opportunities but they're not just going to fall into your lap. And for the record, I didn't mean "business card" so much as I meant your name and either phone number or email on a piece of paper. All of the extra lessons I've ever taught have come from responding to part-time job posts and through assertively networking and actively making an effort to talk to people who look friendly. Nobody has ever come out and asked me if I teach private lessons, but if I mention that I do, there is frequently an interest and/or a referral to someone they know who is looking for lessons.


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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't recommend handing out a business card to people on the street if you are on an E-2 visa.
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, I just can't resist it okay..... I took two words out and it looks very funny....

look for kids. Give them a piece of candy and your business card with a phone number

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