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What to eat before gym, after gym

 
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: What to eat before gym, after gym Reply with quote

I've only been going to the gym a couple of months now.
So far I'll just have my usual breakfast of cereal or
whatever and eat a can of tuna afterwards.
I also tend to drink a lot of water throughout the day.

Any advice on pre/post gym meals.


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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: What to eat before gym, after gym Reply with quote

Mashimaro wrote:
I've only been going to the gym a couple of months now,
and so far I'll just have my usual breakfast of cereal or
whatever and eat a can of tuna afterwards. I also tend
to drink a lot of water throughout the day.

Any advice on some better pre/post gym food.


I think it would depend on what kind of work-out you've got. If you're doing long-distance running, you would need more complex carbs than if you were heavily into muscle building, which would call for more protein.
So, what have you been doing at the gym?
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: What to eat before gym, after gym Reply with quote

kermo wrote:

I think it would depend on what kind of work-out you've got. If you're doing long-distance running, you would need more complex carbs than if you were heavily into muscle building, which would call for more protein.
So, what have you been doing at the gym?

Right I should have been more specific..

As I'm naturally skinny I want to put on more muscle so I've mainly been lifting weights with just a little cardio.
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Pink Freud



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very basic

http://bodybuilding.about.com/od/nutritionbasics/a/nutrition.htm
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rawiri



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are skinny and want to put on muscle mass then eat anything and everything, fried chicken, dongassu, whatever. You only worry about cutting back on fatty foods after you have accumulated some muscle mass, until that point go for it and eat whatever you want as often as you want (so long as you are following a good training routine).
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Thunndarr



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not rocket science. You should have a decent mix of complex carbs and protein both before and after going to the gym. The pre-workout meal supplies energy for your workout as well as protein to help your muscles repair themselves as soon as possible after the workout. The post-workout carbs help replace the energy stores you've used up (basically, it means you recover better and faster.) Obviously, the protein helps repair and build muscle.
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Novernae



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rawiri wrote:
If you are skinny and want to put on muscle mass then eat anything and everything, fried chicken, dongassu, whatever. You only worry about cutting back on fatty foods after you have accumulated some muscle mass, until that point go for it and eat whatever you want as often as you want (so long as you are following a good training routine).


That's good for the heart. Rolling Eyes Just because you are skinny doesn't mean you shouldn't eat healthily and can eat whatever garbage you want. If you start to eat like that no matter how much you work out you increase your risk of heart disease. It would be much more efficient to increase your intake with quality proteins and carbs and not just increase your saturated fat intake. (that doesn't mean that the occasional fried chicken is out though Wink )
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rawiri



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mehh...if your still youngish and train properly your heart is capable of handling a lot more than people think. Dieticians and nutritionists lay out guide lines towards your average joe schmoo who isn't willing to commit themseleves to 2 plus hours training a day 5 or 6 days a week which is what it takes to bulk up and have a good level of cardio vascular fitness.

Granted you will eventually have to change your eating habits but initially there's likely little chance of cardio problems unless you have a genetic predisposition towards them.

Go for it man, munch out on whatever the hell you feel like.
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Novernae



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rawiri wrote:
Mehh...if your still youngish and train properly your heart is capable of handling a lot more than people think. Dieticians and nutritionists lay out guide lines towards your average joe schmoo who isn't willing to commit themseleves to 2 plus hours training a day 5 or 6 days a week which is what it takes to bulk up and have a good level of cardio vascular fitness.

Granted you will eventually have to change your eating habits but initially there's likely little chance of cardio problems unless you have a genetic predisposition towards them.

Go for it man, munch out on whatever the hell you feel like.


Just because the normal guidelines are meant for the average person doesn't mean there aren't guidelines for active people as well. They council active people to properly increase their intake just as much as they council inactive people to lower their intake. Not a single one would tell you to ignore everything known about nutrition and health and just eat anything you want because you are burning more calories. Being active doesn't negate the negative effects bad food has on you.

But whatever, it's your heart. Rolling Eyes
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Protein should be you major priority.

For every pound you should be eating 1 gram of protein. I stick to 1.5.

I drink at least 4 protein shakes and I have a sensible solid lunch, which includes proteins, Fiber, vegies, some carbs, ( I tend to eat very little rice)
Also you should be eating healthy fats which you can obtain from nuts and fish oil. Peanut butter is excelent filer. I also have about 4-6 oz of lean chicken breast for dinner.

Before work out I suggest Protein shake with some nuts for fatty acids that your muscles need. Post work out you should Have another protein shake and a carb input this is to control insulin in your body. Plus it keeps the body from feeding on your muscles.
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rawiri



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Novernae"][quote="rawiri"]Mehh...if your still youngish and train properly your heart is capable of handling a lot more than people think. [b]Dieticians and nutritionists lay out guide lines towards your average joe schmoo[/b] who isn't willing to commit themseleves to 2 plus hours training a day 5 or 6 days a week which is what it takes to bulk up and have a good level of cardio vascular fitness.

Granted you will eventually have to change your eating habits but initially there's likely little chance of cardio problems unless you have a genetic predisposition towards them.

Go for it man, munch out on whatever the hell you feel like.[/quote]

Just because the normal guidelines are meant for the average person doesn't mean there aren't guidelines for active people as well. They council active people to [i]properly [/i]increase their intake just as much as they council inactive people to lower their intake. Not a single one would tell you to ignore everything known about nutrition and health and just eat anything you want because you are burning more calories. Being active doesn't negate the negative effects bad food has on you.

But whatever, it's your heart. Rolling Eyes[/quote]


ok, number 1, don't use those rolly eye's, they reek of 15 year olds on msn chat forums. roflmao, that kind of crap.

2- my method has worked for a heap of dudes i know back home who are serious lifters and who are active sportspeople as well.

3- i made it quite clear that eventually you would have to start eating differently but intially i advocate eating anything you want so long as you are meeting daily nutrional requirements.
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Novernae



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rawiri wrote:
Novernae wrote:
rawiri wrote:
Mehh...if your still youngish and train properly your heart is capable of handling a lot more than people think. Dieticians and nutritionists lay out guide lines towards your average joe schmoo who isn't willing to commit themseleves to 2 plus hours training a day 5 or 6 days a week which is what it takes to bulk up and have a good level of cardio vascular fitness.

Granted you will eventually have to change your eating habits but initially there's likely little chance of cardio problems unless you have a genetic predisposition towards them.

Go for it man, munch out on whatever the hell you feel like.


Just because the normal guidelines are meant for the average person doesn't mean there aren't guidelines for active people as well. They council active people to properly increase their intake just as much as they council inactive people to lower their intake. Not a single one would tell you to ignore everything known about nutrition and health and just eat anything you want because you are burning more calories. Being active doesn't negate the negative effects bad food has on you.

But whatever, it's your heart. Rolling Eyes



ok, number 1, don't use those rolly eye's, they reek of 15 year olds on msn chat forums. roflmao, that kind of crap.

2- my method has worked for a heap of dudes i know back home who are serious lifters and who are active sportspeople as well.

3- i made it quite clear that eventually you would have to start eating differently but intially i advocate eating anything you want so long as you are meeting daily nutrional requirements.


1- sorry to have offended your oh so mature mind, it's a good thing you brought this up in a nutritional debate though, I will avoid smileys in the future. Would bringing up your typos help my argument.

2- I hope none of these guys suffers the lingering effects of 'your' method.

3- you see nutritional requirements as minimums. The nutritional world sees them as both minimums and maximums.

What you do when you are young and 'healthy' has a big effect on you later in life. You haven't reached that time yet, and I hope you don't regret what you are doing. I know healthy bodies can handle a lot more than those who may have predisposition or family history, but you have no idea about the OP's family history, and he may not either. It's not really the best thing to recommend something that for a lot of people is really dangerous, and for most people has a high chance of negative future effects.

The OP has two options. He could follow 'your method' and throw all nutritional intelligence away. Or he could bulk up by following accepted and widely tested guidelines and have the same results without the negative future consequences.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrench wrote:
Protein should be you major priority.

For every pound you should be eating 1 gram of protein. I stick to 1.5.

I drink at least 4 protein shakes and I have a sensible solid lunch, which includes proteins, Fiber, vegies, some carbs, ( I tend to eat very little rice)
Also you should be eating healthy fats which you can obtain from nuts and fish oil. Peanut butter is excelent filer. I also have about 4-6 oz of lean chicken breast for dinner.

Before work out I suggest Protein shake with some nuts for fatty acids that your muscles need. Post work out you should Have another protein shake and a carb input this is to control insulin in your body. Plus it keeps the body from feeding on your muscles.


4 a day? I hope I never end up in an elevator with you.

Pre-workout... a bit of carbs, linoleic acid (fatty acid) or Omega 3-6-9, arginine/creatine/citrulline supplements (gives a NO boost for very intense workout). Post-workout, protein drink, fruit, and creatine (got some glutamine and BCAA on the way). The rest of the day, apples, vegies, soup, rice, some meat or chicken and yoghurt.
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thebum



Joined: 09 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lentils! google for dahl recipes if you need a good way to cook them.
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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should probably strive for a mixture of 40% carbs, 30% protein, and 30% fat. be careful though as fat has twice the calories as protein and carbs per mass.
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