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philipjames



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about praying for an education and the ability to think criticaly. If in the 3rd millenium you are still praying to Hebrew, Greek or Egyptian deities that's a bit sad. Get off your knees and go read the following book: Who Wrote the Bible. It's available at Kyobo Book Store.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

otis, you should pray for the 3 million South Vietnamese that you allege died as a result of the US withdrawl from Vietnam. Or maybe you could pray for a source that supports your allegations. Up to you.

Whatever you end up praying for, if you end up praying for people recovering from illness, don't tell them you're doing it.

Prayers found ineffective in speeding recovery

Praying for someone might give you hope, but it won't help them recover from heart surgery. It may even harm them. That's the surprising result from a multi-year clinical trial on the therapeutic effects of prayer.

Herbert Benson and Jeffery Dusek of the Mind/Body Medical Institute at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts, and their colleagues followed the fates of 1802 patients undergoing coronary bypass operations. Several Christian prayer groups prayed for one set of patients, while another did not receive any prayers. Although all these patients knew they were in the trial, neither they nor their doctors knew which of the groups they were in.

The prayers made no detectable difference. In the first month after surgery, 52 per cent of prayed-for patients and 51 per cent of non-prayed-for patients suffered one or more complications, the researchers found (American Heart Journal, vol 151, p 934).

A third group of patients received the same prayers as the first group, but were told they were being prayed for. Of these, 59 per cent suffered complications - significantly more than the patients left unsure of whether they were receiving prayers.

The researchers have no explanation for this result, but Mitchell Krukoff at Duke University School of Medicine in Durham, North Carolina, suggests that the burden of knowing they were being prayed for may have put added stress on these patients after their surgery.

From issue 2546 of New Scientist magazine, 07 April 2006, http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19025463.200
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Praying doesn't work. I'm still slogging it out in Korea to repay student debts and my todger is still tiny.
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ED209



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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