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Isn't it rude to live in a country + not learn the language?
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essexboy



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:13 am    Post subject: Isn't it rude to live in a country + not learn the language? Reply with quote

I have been here for 6 months now, and i am learning the language as fast as i bloody well can. I think it is incredibly ignorant and rude to actually live in another non-English speaking country and not at least try to speak the language. What are the opinions of others on this?

The reason i posted this: I feel incredibly uncomfortable when people apologise to me for their lack of English knowledge when I am speaking to them. Why should they have to speak English if they don't plan to leave their country?
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Ron Stevens



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Re: Isn't it rude to live in a country + not learn the langu Reply with quote

essexboy wrote:
I have been here for 6 months now, and i am learning the language as fast as i bloody well can. I think it is incredibly ignorant and rude to actually live in another non-English speaking country and not at least try to speak the language. What are the opinions of others on this?

The reason i posted this: I feel incredibly uncomfortable when people apologise to me for their lack of English knowledge when I am speaking to them. Why should they have to speak English if they don't plan to leave their country?


i couldn't give a *beep* what other people do

obviously if you intend to stay in a country for any length of time then you are severly disadvantaging yourself by not learning the language

but why worry about other cunts?
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essexboy



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

consideration.
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tiger fancini



Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Isn't it rude to live in a country + not learn the langu Reply with quote

essexboy wrote:
Why should they have to speak English if they don't plan to leave their country?


I hope you don't approach your students with this attitude!!

Seriously though, I think that if you are planning on staying in Korea for more than a year then you ought to make an effort to learn the lingo. If Korea is not for you though, and you only plan on seeing a year out just to get your severance pay and then not coming back, then I personally wouldn't bother.

However, I like it here very much and do plan to stay, so I intend to learn Korean! How are you learning? Are you on a course, or just teaching yourself immersion-style?
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essexboy



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am having a private lesson once a week, and i study at home every morning before work for about an hour and a half.
My grammar is excellent, but my speaking sucks.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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maddog



Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I study a little at home, and try to pick up little bits here and there from my K friends (whom I studied with in London), but I don't think it's a big deal. I mix mostly with foreigners and my K friends speak impeccable English, better than my Korean could ever be.

As long as you can get by, and don't EXPECT Koreans to speak English, it certainly isn't rude not to speak the lingo.
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drkalbi



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a good Korean friend ho advises me not to bother learning Korean. he says that it is vry stressful and I'd be better off just speaking English. He rfuses to teach me Korean.

I don't agree, but I have noticed that when i speak only English, and am persistant, I can get better prices just by playing the dumb American. They just want me out of their face and figure I'm too ignorant to take a hint so they cut a deal to be done with me. As soon as I speak korean, they no longer make allowences for me.

On the other hand, understanding a bit of korean helps you understand what the hell people are saying.
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Neil



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why should they have to speak English if they don't plan to leave their country?


A mate of mine has left Korea twice in his life (both short vacations to the USA), but has to speak English everyday at work, international economy innit.

You're right people should try...but I think as useless as most of us foreigners are at it very few people IMO come over with the intention of refusing to learn. Truth is it's a time consuming task that is made difficult when one does hagwon work (8 hours a day and all that).....foreign businesspeople who do 12/13 hour workdays are in a worse position to learn it.

There was a thread about people who learned it to a high standard and they had all taken 6-12 months off to study it full time. If you want to be a long termer then fair enough, go for it but if not it's bit of an ask to readjust your finances to allow such a long period of no work.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No
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