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Do you find Christian to be happier and well adjusted
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Do you find Christian to be happier and well adju Reply with quote

MASH4077 wrote:


I am not talking about Korea - that is a different story. I heard of two juicy girl bar onwers in Itaewan that attends church every Sunday. Also, when I taught businessmen, they would go to room salons on Saturday night and be in church twe next day



I don't see the problem there. Church can be peaceful for some people. It can be a way to be part of the social community. It could even be good for business contacts. I've heard of foreigners going to church as a way to get private students.

It's also human enough to be inconsistent and contradictory in behavior one day to the next. Not that attending church makes you a good person anyway. Some (sanctimonious) churchgoers are really despicable creatures.

On the other hand, there does seem to be a bit of hypocrisy involved. Let's dress up nice and appear respectable to others, then be our usual a$$ hole selves the rest of the time.

I think of church as like going to the movies, being entertained,

or shaving, a habit, a way to look clean.
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Julius



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:

I used to be really heavy into charismatic Christianity as a youngster (high school). My youth group was fanatical. We started out small, and ended up with about 150 people at the peak time. Our worship rituals were nuts. We'd sometimes just worship for 6 or 7 hours at a time, canceling the sermon and everything else. That feeling you get when you are in a ritual induced trance is fantastic.

A lot of people fell out of it. We got cynical, and then the trance thing didn't work like it had in the past. All my friends and acquaintances from that group, about 40 people, ended up moving on to do a lot of drugs. Always searching for that euphoria again.

We even once devised our own ritual and found the same "holy ghost" feeling just amongst ourselves.

This is why you see the people who look so happy in the pictures while worshiping. Outside church, I think religion plays a limited role in happiness. Being happy has more to do with your personal beliefs, ethics, discipline, values, and perspective on life.


Interesting post. I'm not a churchgoer. I do think church is little more than a social opportunity in Korea. Also I'm not evangelical nor do I place much store in trance-like displays. neither is it about being happy for me... christians are expected to undergo persecution, trials, and temptations. It does not depend on any feelings or sensations for me either. (although I always get a strong feeling when reading the bible.)Its necessarily.. not easy to live up to it in this world.
For me its above all a deep belief, conviction. In my teen years and early 20's I left it behind and indulged in all the usual vices. However I never stopped believing. it has always made sense to me. Of course, it is not designed for success or riches in this world, it does not follow or fit the rules of people. it goes against the earthly existence. But..i fear God, and the truth of what is written in the bible is often tapping me on the shoulder and apparent in what I see around me everyday. it has taught me to believe and have faith i what is ahead, in things I can't see or fully understand.

talking of adjustment..My time out from it gave me a new perspective which was useful. i'd also say..people whoo have never given christianity a second thought would be better adjusted if they did.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's naive to believe we can put ourselves in other people's shoes and know what would make someone else happy or unhappy.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: very ifffy Reply with quote

I do have expereince in the Christian world and I believe, expereinced and seen that too strong of a personality behind the pulpit can almost be "cultlike". I have seen many people become blind followers.

I have heard things like


"Don't touch God's anointed"That means do not question or criticize them.

There are all kinds of scriptures and cliches they use to impose their will.

In stating this, I have seen truly humble men and women who do tons of good in this world and lead simply by example.
I know this gets away from my original topic

sorry
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