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[Bulsajo]

[Octavius Hite]

I can tell the difference, sorry, the board and some members have been pointed at Alberta as being the end all of the Canadian economy. My point was merely that paying off the debt is a better long term economic move than cutting the GST. Cutting tax to spur economic growth is a Bushism and a failure in my opinion. Besides that, Canada didn't need a an economic stimulus, it was done so that Harper could appease western voters and their hatred of taxes.

[Bulsajo]

Perhaps. I think when you say 'spur' there is a difference between using tax cuts to try to get out of a slump vs. keeping the economy hot.
Personally I think you are too fixated on comparing the Conservatives to Bush's Republicans. Different parties, different countries, different economies.
And isn't it funny how the roles now seemed to be reversed regarding liberal and conservative economic stances?
Here you are preaching about how bad tax cuts (which can and are viewed as a way of "giving some of the $ back to the people") are and how the govt should be paying down the debt (a move which traditionally is seen as one which favours investment, i.e.- good for people who have something to 'invest')...

I'm not an economist- have I got this all wrong?

[Hyalucent]

The Quebecois aren't going to get all excited over a semantic argument federally. The real effect of this will come next spring if Quebec enters a provincial election. At that point the average fellow on the street is going to think of the nationhood recognition and be much more favourable to voting for the PQ. They will likely form the next provincial government and a new referendum will soon follow.

It doesn't matter who first proposed the motion; any movement in this direction is a victory for the Bloc/Parti Quebecois and a loss for Federalists.

[Bulsajo]

[Hyalucent]

[Bulsajo]

I just don't buy it.
I don't buy that there was any immediate pressure on the Conservatives to have to take such a forced, seemingly pre-emptive move.
Why not just sit back and see how the Liberal Leadership convention goes? As I've said earlier in this thread, Rae is more of a danger to the Conservatives than Ignatieff, based on the polls which show the majority of Canadians would prefer him over Ignatieff; if you gave Harper the choice he'd probably prefer to run against Ignatieff than Rae for that as well as a host of other reasons.

So I don't think they did it to make the best of a bad situation.. sure, maybe I'm wrong, but it just doesn't seem like that sort of a move.

[Hyalucent]

The Harper crowd say they did it because the Bloc was going to do the same thing on Thursday anyway. This way they got to control the wording in a way that made it more acceptable to them. They used "Quebecois" instead of "Quebec" and added "within a united Canada".

I don't know who they'd prefer to run against. Bob Rae might be favoured more than Ignatieff but that doesn't mean they'll vote for him. People remember what happened to the Ontario economy under his government.

[Bulsajo]

[Hyalucent]

[Bulsajo]

Hmmm, interesting (I should have said this earlier: thanks for all the info in your posts).

[thepeel]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[laogaiguk]

[TheUrbanMyth]

Giving the parents the money that would have gone there otherwise is another biggie and a plus for the side of Harper.