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1) Meat. 2) No meat. --Neat.
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Meat? No meat?
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flotsam is my saviour.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
Carnivores are not regularly eaten due to I've been told bad flavor.


That's a bit incorrect.

It's more a matter of inefficancy. The conversion of food biomass into consumer biomass is usually around 10%. So it takes around 10,000kg of corn to grow a 1000kg cow. However if you wanted to grow a 1000kg carnivore, it would need 10,000kg of herbivore which in turn would require 100,000kg of corn. That 1% efficency is why no carnivore has ever been domesticated in the 12,000 years that animals have been domesticated.
Groups of people who survive by hunting eat carnivores all the time. Unless your a vegetarian, you've probably eaten carnivorous wild fish too. It's not the flavor.

I myself am not a vegetarian because of the rather traumatic experience of in high school seeing Micheal Stipe, one of the world's great vegetarians, eating a BBQ rib sandwich at a BBQ shack in Athens, GA. If the writer of Shiny, Happy People can't stick to vegetables, what hope do I have?
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
That 1% efficency is why no carnivore has ever been domesticated in the 12,000 years that animals have been domesticated.



have dogs and cats not been domesticated?
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endofthewor1d wrote:
cwemory wrote:
That 1% efficency is why no carnivore has ever been domesticated in the 12,000 years that animals have been domesticated.



have dogs and cats not been domesticated?


sorry i was unclear. thanks for the correction. i meant domesticated for food. perhaps dogs come close being omnivores. they were originally domesticated for companionship but were later raised for food. The dogs raised for food though, ate vegetables and garbage.

Jared Diamond's Guns Germs annd Steel discusses this quite a bit.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
endofthewor1d wrote:
cwemory wrote:
That 1% efficency is why no carnivore has ever been domesticated in the 12,000 years that animals have been domesticated.



have dogs and cats not been domesticated?


sorry i was unclear. thanks for the correction. i meant domesticated for food. perhaps dogs come close being omnivores. they were originally domesticated for companionship but were later raised for food. The dogs raised for food though, ate vegetables and garbage.

Jared Diamond's Guns Germs annd Steel discusses this quite a bit.


i borrowed that book just tonight. i'm far too drunk to start reading it though. i'm looking forward to it.
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rockstarsmooth



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Location: anyang, baybee!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm a recovered vegetarian.
i was vegetarian for 5 years. it was alright, i didn't have any religious issues, or problems with killing cute little animals, i just don't like the process that is used in our highly industrialized society. so now i eat meat, but as much as possible i try to eat organic (more difficult here than at home), and i try to apply that to my entire diet. as it is, i don't eat too much meat, i like meat, but i don't need it every day...
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endofthewor1d wrote:

i borrowed that book just tonight. i'm far too drunk to start reading it though. i'm looking forward to it.


you're in for a treat.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
endofthewor1d wrote:

i borrowed that book just tonight. i'm far too drunk to start reading it though. i'm looking forward to it.


you're in for a treat.


Second. Zebras are cool.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KD Lang says that beef stinks


That guy is wrong!
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pastis



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
I only eat animals that only eat vegetablese.

Yes, because we all know mad cow was cause by feeding them their own mushroom infested dung.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Man known as The Man wrote:
KD Lang says that beef stinks


That guy is wrong!


Maybe it's the lingering glow of last night's drunkenness, but that is quite possibly the the quote of the year.
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
The Man known as The Man wrote:
KD Lang says that beef stinks


That guy is wrong!


Maybe it's the lingering glow of last night's drunkenness, but that is quite possibly the the quote of the year.

Yeah, a "kd lang is butch" joke. I'm laughing like it's 1993.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
The Man known as The Man wrote:
KD Lang says that beef stinks


That guy is wrong!


Maybe it's the lingering glow of last night's drunkenness, but that is quite possibly the the quote of the year.

Yeah, a "kd lang is butch" joke. I'm laughing like it's 1993.


Now it's on. Laughing
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

고기.....딜리셔스.

Had some lovely steak (Korean beef) for dinner yesterday evening.

Had a funny conversation with my pathetically ignorant co-teacher recently.

Spin: Do Koreans eat 양고기?

pathetically ignorant co-teacher: it's not common.

Spin: In my country, roast lamb on a sunday afternoon is the height of excellence.

pathetically ignorant co-teacher: Lamb has a strange smell.

Spin: No it doesn't, you stupid t**t! Anyway, we use mint and rosemary and thyme with lamb.

pathetically ignorant co-teacher: Is that to get rid of the strange smell?

Spin: You're so stupid it truly defies belief. We use these things with lamb because it TASTES NICE, you dumb fookin 년.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like it was a case of the blind leading the blind.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
The Man known as The Man wrote:
KD Lang says that beef stinks


That guy is wrong!


Maybe it's the lingering glow of last night's drunkenness, but that is quite possibly the the quote of the year.

Yeah, a "kd lang is butch" joke. I'm laughing like it's 1993.


I've had time to sober up, and now I realize that the quote, while mildly humorous, isn't as great as it seemed to me earlier.

Similarly, I now feel a little less handsome.

Time for a drink!
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