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[Satori]

[jajdude]

But don't you like the song by John Hiatt, "Have a little faith in me" ?

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Here's one reason I don't have a lot of respect for the Catholic Church:

During 1996, the Province of Newfoundland has paid $11.25 million to settle about 40 Mount Cashel claims. Other victims of the Christian Brothers' abuse have initiated claims for additional compensation from the Province.

From: http://www.religioustolerance.org/clergy_sex3.htm

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I might have been a Muslim but I was born in the wrong place. I blame my parents for that. All they had to do was move to the Middle East.

They seem to live mostly only in certain places/countries, but not other certain places. One of those coincidences nobody can explain I guess.

Just remember thou shalt not kill, unless you got a good reason like someone who disagrees with you on which invisible man is the real one.

(George Carlin paraphrased)

Atheists especially might love this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SzHlMs2rSIM

[Satori]

[Green Tea]

My views on the subject should be clear

[andrew]

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[SPINOZA]

But is it civil, Andrew?

I advocated that Jesus and other religious individuals would've been best shot at birth. That's not civil. That's one of the most reprehensible views ever expressed!

Morality, albeit in retrospect, says that Jesus and Mohammed should not have existed.

[maya.the.bee]

one of my fav radio shows, this american life did a show about a charismatic pastor (evangelical?) who stopped believing in hell. episode 304. very interesting.

[jajdude]

Some quotes:

Thomas Jefferson, the third president of the United States:

"Religions are alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies."
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
"The Christian God is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust."
"The authors of the gospels were unlettered and ignorant men and the teachings of Jesus have come to us mutilated, misstated and unintelligible."


Charles Kimball Baptist minister, Middle East expert, and author of a phenomenally important book: When Religion Becomes Evil. "Whatever religious people may say about their love of God or the mandates of their religion, when their behavior toward others is violent and destructive, when it causes suffering among their neighbors, you can be sure the religion has been corrupted and reform is desperately needed."

Farrell Till: "Information is religion's greatest enemy, and in an age when information is just a few keyboard strokes away from anyone with a computer, this is going to pose a greater threat to Christianity than anything it has yet 'survived.' "

Neal Donald Walsch: "It is religion which has filled the hearts of men with fear of God, where once man loved that which is in all its splendor. It is religion which has ordered men to bow down before God where once man rose up in joyful outreach. It is religion which has burdened man with worries about God's wrath where once man sought God to lighten his burden. It is religion which told man to be ashamed of his body and its most natural functions where once man celebrated those functions as the greatest gifts of life."
"Everywhere religion has gone it has created disunity."


Alan Watts: from "The Essence of Alan Watts series - GOD": Many people think that the Bible is the authentic word of God and they worship the bible, making it an idol..."

Steven Weinberg, Nobel Laureate: "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion."

Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi: "God has no religion."

Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz, Supreme religious authority, Saudi Arabia and author of a Muslim religious edict, 1993:

"The earth is flat, and anyone who disputes this claim is an atheist who deserves to be punished."

George H.W. Bush, (R) as Presidential Nominee for the Republican party; 1987-AUG-27:

"No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

Hagar, in the Hagar comic strip for 1999-MAR-3:

"My son, always respect and honor the other fellow's point of view. Unless it's different from yours, of course."

Harvey Milk, at a 1978 Gay Freedom Day Rally. (Harvey Milk was killed later that year by a fanatic).

"The fact is that more people have been slaughtered in the name of religion than for any other single reason. That, THAT my friends, is true perversion."

Blaise Paschal: Often attributed to Sam J. Ervin, Jr., in "Protecting the Constitution" (1984).

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

John Shattuck, Assistant Secretary of the U.S. State Department for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor. Stated at a press conference concerning the Department's 1997 Country Report on Human Rights on 1998-JAN-30:

"Ethnic and religious conflict remain the most intractable and dangerous problems in the world today."

Albert Einstein

"The wiser you are, the more you believe in equality, because the difference between what the most and the least learned people know is inexpressibly trivial in relation to all that is unknown."

Robert I. Gannon

"Tolerance...is the lowest form of human cooperation. It is the drab, uncomfortable, halfway house between hate and charity."

Wendell Willke

"No man has a right, in America, to treat any other man TOLERANTLY, for TOLERANCE is the assumption of superiority."

Anon: "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."
Anon: "God made 'Adam and Eve' not 'Adam and Steve'?...hmmmm...then who made 'Steve'?"

Krishnamurti, a Buddhist mystic: "Truth is a pathless land. Man cannot come to it through any organization, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection." 4

Philo: "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."

L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and the Church of Scientology: "Happiness and strength endure only in the absence of hate. To hate alone is the road to disaster. To love is the road to strength. To love in spite of all is the secret of greatness. And may very well be the greatest secret in this universe."

Eldridge Cleaver, "Soul on Ice"

"The price of hating other human beings is loving oneself less."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/quotes.htm

[Troll_Bait]

What are the people who voted "other"? We know that one of them is a Hare Krishna. And the rest? Zoroastrians? Wiccans? Neo-Platonic Mysticists?

[OiGirl]

[Satori]

[jajdude]

Yeah, Blaise Pascal was no fool.

If you like this kind of quotes, well, of course they're easy to find. Lots of good ones here:

http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_religion.html

Here's a few more anyway, since I liked them so much:
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Bertrand Russell:

In conclusion, there is a marvelous anecdote from the occasion of Russell's ninetieth birthday that best serves to summarize his attitude toward God and religion. A London lady sat next to him at this party, and over the soup she suggested to him that he was not only the world's most famous atheist but, by this time, very probably the world's oldest atheist. "What will you do, Bertie, if it turns out you're wrong?" she asked. "I mean, what if -- uh -- when the time comes, you should meet Him? What will you say?" Russell was delighted with the question. His bright, birdlike eyes grew even brighter as he contemplated this possible future dialogue, and then he pointed a finger upward and cried, "Why, I should say, 'God, you gave us insufficient evidence.'"
Al Seckel, in Preface to Bertrand Russell on God and Religion

G Gaia:

The common dogma [of fundamentalists] is fear of modern knowledge, inability to cope with the fast change in a scientific-technological society, and the real breakdown in apparent moral order in recent years.... That is why hate is the major fuel, fear is the cement of the movement, and superstitious ignorance is the best defense against the dangerous new knowledge. ... When you bring up arguments that cast serious doubts on their cherished beliefs you are not simply making a rhetorical point, you are threatening their whole Universe and their immortality. That provokes anger and quite frequently violence. ... Unfortunately you cannot reason with them and you even risk violence in confronting them. Their numbers will decline only when society stabilizes, and adapts to modernity.
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Jonathan Swift:

We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.

Noam Chomsky:

Three quarters of the American population literally believe in religious miracles. The numbers who believe in the devil, in resurrection, in God doing this and that -- it's astonishing. These numbers aren't duplicated anywhere else in the industrial world. You'd have to maybe go to mosques in Iran or do a poll among old ladies in Sicily to get numbers like this. Yet this is the American population.

Ralph Waldo Emerson:

The religion that is afraid of science dishonors God and commits suicide.

Sigmund Freud:

Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis.


Voltaire:

If God did not exist it would be necessary for us to invent Him.

Voltaire:

When it's a question of money, everybody is of the same religion.
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OK, enough of that!

[bluelake]

TTT

[SirFink]

The poll results are like the set-up for a bad joke: "28 Christians, a Jew and Muslim are on the Titanic..."