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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: Documentary Films Rattle Business World |
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Documentary Films Rattle Business World
By JACOB ADELMAN, Associated Press Writer
Sun Nov 26, 1:50 PM ET
LOS ANGELES - Starbucks Corp. was one of the companies that turned down interview requests from Nick and Mark Francis when the brothers were shooting their documentary about rampant poverty among Ethiopian coffee growers.
But after "Black Gold" attracted attention at the Sundance Film Festival in January, the coffee giant invited the British brothers to its Seattle headquarters as it prepared for a barrage of bad publicity.
"Black Gold," now being screened at festivals and art houses, is the latest in a growing genre of documentary films shaking up the business world. They are taking critiques of corporate power that would once have been the province of newspapers and magazines to movie theaters and DVD shops, where they're finding an increasingly receptive audience.
The trend, which started with "Roger and Me" in 1989 and more recently featured "Super Size Me" and "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room," is forcing some corporate targets to counterattack � and, some say, even change business practices � to dodge claims of unfair wages, unhealthy products or environmental degradation.
"When you're talking about a documentary, it's something that's being presented as if it's fact, so that's a huge problem for companies," said Paul A. Argenti, a professor at Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth University.
Michael Moore's "Roger and Me" left a lasting blemish on General Motors Corp. for closing its plant in Flint, Mich., and leaving rampant unemployment in its wake.
Morgan Spurlock's 2004 documentary "Super Size Me" assailed McDonald's for pushing high-calorie meals, while last year's Enron film by Alex Gibney showed how internal avarice and corruption brought down the world's largest energy company.
The films are finding an eager audience, said Erik Schut, editorial director of TLA Entertainment group, which runs a chain of video rental shops on the East Coast and operates a DVD mail order service.
"These are not Hollywood-style films," he said. "So the fact that people are responding to them, that says a lot."
Jon Else, who teaches documentary filmmaking at the University of California, Berkeley, believes the growing interest in corporate-critical documentaries is a reaction to the extremes of wealth created by an untamed free market.
Nick Francis said "Black Gold" stemmed from the brothers' outrage about the poverty that persists among Ethiopian growers even as multinational coffee sellers make huge profits.
The brothers put the final cost of the movie at $760,000 and said its financing was typical for films of the genre, relying on grants, small donations and pro bono production help.
This year's "Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers" from director Robert Greenwald was bankrolled by thousands of individual donors who responded to a fundraising e-mail from the filmmakers.
Despite the relatively small budgets, many of the films have drawn big attention.
Starbucks sent an e-mail to employees in the United Kingdom characterizing "Black Gold" as "inaccurate and incomplete" before it played at the London Film Festival. At Sundance, the company distributed a statement saying it believes "coffee farmers should make a living wage and be paid fair prices."
Nick Francis believes "Black Gold" also helped prompt an upcoming meeting between the chief executive of Starbucks and the Ethiopian prime minister. Starbucks spokeswoman Audrey Lincoff said the film and the meeting were unrelated.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. reacted similarly to Greenwald's "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" when it was released in 2005. The company kept a log of what it called the film's "numerous inaccuracies" and shared it with reporters and on its Web site, spokeswoman Marisa Bluestone said.
Wal-Mart also made its workers available for a rebuttal documentary, "Why Wal-Mart Works: And Why that Drives Some People C-r-a-z-y," which portrays the corporation sympathetically.
Spurlock suspects his 2004 documentary "Super Size Me," which showed the unhealthy effect of a strictly fast food diet, helped influence McDonald's Corp. to add healthier items to its menu.
"McDonald's is launching its new 'Go Active! Adult Happy Meals' nationwide," he wrote on his Web log when his movie first began generating buzz. "Coincidence? Yeah, right," he wrote.
McDonald's has consistently denied any connection between the film and changes to its menu.
"Super Size Me" is one of the relatively few business-related documentaries to find broad distribution. Roadside Attractions and Samuel Goldwyn Films picked it up after it won Spurlock a Sundance documentary directing award in 2004.
It went on to earn $11.5 million at the U.S. box office, making it the biggest moneymaker in the genre. "Roger and Me" earned $6.7 million at the U.S. box office. "Sicko," Moore's film on the pharmaceutical industry, is due out next summer.
Even less broadly distributed documentaries are finding wider interest than a liberal screed in The Nation or an expose in The New York Times Magazine with similar ideas might reach.
"You get a lot of bang for the buck when you make a movie," Else said. "You get a lot of eyeballs."
Web sites for documentaries like "Black Gold" and "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" list dozens of screenings each month at repertory theaters, universities and churches where they're presented by advocacy groups and often followed by discussion sessions.
"They become events in themselves," Nick Francis said.
Else said the filmmakers are akin to the rabble-rousing reporters who took on the railroad empires and mining giants of the early 20th century.
"These guys are doing what any good crusading journalist would have done in a time when everyone was reading the newspaper everyday," he said. |
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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Rabble rousing or not...these films are provoking a debate in the wider community, and that can't be a bad thing. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Film grabs people like the printed word doesnt seem to anymore. Sundance, youtube, whatever. Muckraking is coming into its prime, is making a difference, & deserves to be celebrated. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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These docs are good in helping companies in being honest. Want to see Supersize me.
I've noticed that the menue at McDee's has changed in the last couple of years~ salads and stuff make for a healthier menu overall. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
These docs are good in helping companies in being honest. Want to see Supersize me.
I've noticed that the menue at McDee's has changed in the last couple of years~ salads and stuff make for a healthier menu overall. |
Two points. One, many of those salads and stuff aren't near as healthy as many think they are.
The other point. Does McDonald's really need a healthy menu? McDonald's was doing just fine 30 years ago (or whenever it started). I think it's people's fault for going to McDonald's 2 times a week instead of the once or twice a month they used to. And could they keep their prices down if they didn't have to worry about a wide variety of health foods? Fast food used to be a treat. Then it became a meal. I don't think McDonald's is the problem (unless you are talking about advertising), nor their menu. There are many other factors at work. |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
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I don't think McDonald's is the problem |
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(unless you are talking about advertising), nor their menu. |
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There are many other factors at work. |
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re:cursive
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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"Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" is a good little documentary.
I went to a lecture by a guy doing film stuff as part of the "No Borders" campaign in Europe who showed some films of very interesting pranks...very interesting. Good luck to them. As a side note...some of the people making this stuff end up in some strife. They are putting themselves on the line...especially when it isn't heavily publicised activities like the ones mentioned above. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Slep wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
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I don't think McDonald's is the problem |
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(unless you are talking about advertising), nor their menu. |
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There are many other factors at work. |
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What the hell are you doing? All of those sentence mean nothing when taken out of context. The intellectual dishonesty needed for the crap you just pulled is appaling.
Explain yourself and don't just take what I said out of context and then put a stupid emoticon. You post is useless and if you would like me to explain things more, you need to make an argument. Back up what you want to say, and do so to my arguments as a whole. |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: |
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laogaiguk wrote: |
Slep wrote: |
laogaiguk wrote: |
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I don't think McDonald's is the problem |
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(unless you are talking about advertising), nor their menu. |
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There are many other factors at work. |
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What the hell are you doing? All of those sentence mean nothing when taken out of context. The intellectual dishonesty needed for the crap you just pulled is appaling.
Explain yourself and don't just take what I said out of context and then put a stupid emoticon. You post is useless and if you would like me to explain things more, you need to make an argument. Back up what you want to say, and do so to my arguments as a whole. |
Damn, relax. Twas a joke.
I just thought your statement was funny. let's be hoenst, it was one statement, i just broke up the sentence to show the absurdity of it how it was phrased.
The main problem with mcdonalds is it's advertising. It's absurd to separate its advertising from the company itself. I think we need to judge books by their covers more often. |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Another problem with McDonalds is that they put addictive chemicals into it... |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I, for one, find it incredible that people find it shocking to learn that fast food is fattening.
Really? You mean a Big Mac, which has over 500 calories, is fattening? No!
Does it take a film to show this?
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Spurlock suspects his 2004 documentary "Super Size Me," which showed the unhealthy effect of a strictly fast food diet, helped influence McDonald's Corp. to add healthier items to its menu. |
A strictly fast-food dieat is unhealthy? Really? I don't need a diet, I need a fucking brain!
Addictive chemicals? OK. I'm sorry, but I need to see some sort of proof of that.
Advertisements? Wow! You mean an advertisement gets people to buy products? You don't say!
Jesus H. Christ... What happened to personal responsibility?
"I eat McDonald's 3 times a day and I'm super-fat. But, it's not my fault. It's McDonald's fault because they advertise."
Oh, wait! I saw in a "documetary" that they don't have all of the nutritional information readily available! That must mean it is true at EVERY SINGLE MCDONALD'S IN THE WORLD!
Starbucks buys Ethiopian coffee as cheap as they can? Wow! You know, if I owned stock in a company, I would try any way possible to MAKE LESS MONEY! But, you know, that's just me. I would vote for my company to buy goods at the most expensivve price possible, because, as an investor, I'm not looking for return on investment. I'm looking to help others.
Dear Idealists,
You want to help the world? Make a billion dollars (Which is impossible without exploiting someone) and buy a company. Run it into the ground saving the world, and then do it again and again until the world is saved. |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry, Satori. I checked it out.
Fast food 'as addictive as heroin'
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Hamburgers and French fries could be as addictive as heroin, scientists have claimed.
Researchers in the United States have found evidence to suggest people can become overly dependent on the sugar and fat in fast food. |
So, it's not that fast food is tasty, easily available, or inexpensive, it's that it's addictive. OK.
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The controversial findings add weight to claims that over-eating is simply down to a lack of self-control.
Some animals - and by extension some people - can become overly dependent on sweet food |
Really. Animals like sweets? Hmmmm... Sounds like a crock to me.
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They found that rats fed a diet containing 25% sugar are thrown into a state of anxiety when the sugar is removed. |
Really? A diet of 25% sugar makes a rat twitch? What sane person eats a diet of 25% sugar?
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Their symptoms included chattering teeth and the shakes - similar to those seen in people withdrawing from nicotine or morphine, according to researchers. |
Try cocaine, because I think that a diet of 25% sugar would do the same thing.
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Dr Hoebel said he believed high-fat foods stimulate opioids or 'pleasure chemicals' in the brain.
"The implication is that some animals - and by extension some people - can become overly dependent on sweet food," he said. |
Overly dependent? You mean they like it? Wow! I'm amazed!
Further studies published in New Scientist magazine back up this theory.
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Ann Kelley, a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin Medical School, the behaviour of rats after the were given sweet, salty and fatty foods.
She found a link between the brain's pleasure chemicals and a craving for this type of food. |
This type of food? A food that is sweet, salty, and loaded with fat? Animals like that? You mean a rat, which usually dines on a delicious menu of rotting feces likes a sweet, salty, and fatty food?
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She stimulated the rats' brains with a synthetic version of the natural opioid enkephalin. This caused rats to eat up to six times their normal intake of fat. |
Doh! You mean that if you get a rat high, it eats bad foods? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaha!
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In addition, Dr Kelley identified long-lasting changes in rats' brain chemistry - similar to those caused by extended use of morphine or heroin. |
Yet again, if you get a rat high, he gets addicted to being high? No way!
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Dr Kelley said: "This says that mere exposure to pleasurable tasty foods is enough to change gene expression and that suggests that you could be addicted to food." |
If you like pleasurable, tasty foods, you must be addicted. Right?
I left the counter-points off, because it's easy to see the dumbassity of this argument. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Having been through a Korean election, where people were fined or even arrested for putting up parody sites on the internet regarding candidates, Moore's F.9-11 was a bit of a reminder about true democracy and the market place of ideas.
I don't know too many people who work for Starbucks that complain about their lot in life there. For customer service, they generally feel well paid, they get stocks in the company, and benefits. Maybe there's a problem with some of the suppliers. Well, good if someone exposes that.
Attacks on the fast food industry I have less sympathy with. You don't wanna get fat eating Big Macs, stop eating Big Macs. Workers are low paid? Well, it's traditionally a job for teenagers. Their first job. I didn't expect my paper route I had when I was 13 to pay a living wage either. If Western economies are only turning out McJobs then this is an issue for government, not for the people trying to make a profit selling bits of meat. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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People should sue themselves for being to lazy to cook their own food, or any other physical activity that involves more than picking the TV remote control. |
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