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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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China controls the nuke


Explain.


See the whole quote. Then refer to the previous entries then from the context of those if China controls NK they will then by proxy control the NK nuke.


Then, this assumes KJI won't use it if he thinks he's being overthrown?

Or, more specifically, my main question is how you overthrow someone with a nuke without them using it in the process.

And why, EFL, do you think they don't have a delivery system that can hit Beijing when they've already shot a missile all the way over Japan?
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you asking pointless questions? The questions you asked have commonly known asnwers. Are you just being argumentative? Trying to distract from the topic?

Curious mind wants to know.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could be right I guess, about China's fear of NK nukes. Personally, I'd really want to see evidence from some reputable China-watchers that this is a motivating factor in their calculations. I don't think I've heard much, if anything, about the Chinese worrying that NK itself will send a nuke their way. Not saying you have to provide said evidence, but if someone else reading this has something on that, I'd certainly be interested in reading it


I'm not exactly a reputable China watcher, and I haven't any evidence outside of what some pundents have said. But given that instability in China proper is largely concentrated in Manchuria, stability in NK is important. In a scenario where China might want to replace KJI it would primarily be because KJI would be causing more instability and unrest in the region and thusly into Manchuria than would result from a coup and its aftermath.

The nuclear situation certainly plays a factor, though.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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Why are you asking pointless questions? The questions you asked have commonly known asnwers. Are you just being argumentative? Trying to distract from the topic?


Because I don't know the answers. Please share.
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
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Why are you asking pointless questions? The questions you asked have commonly known asnwers. Are you just being argumentative? Trying to distract from the topic?


Because I don't know the answers. Please share.


They are within this thead and within recent news history, so I think you are fishing. Whatever. They do not have a demonstrably workable long-range missile, nor do they have a warhead, so far as the evidence points. Thus, any weapons they do have are undeliverable except by truck or plane. I have a hard time seeing them sneak an oversized A-bomb into Beijing, but it is presumably within the range of possibility, if outside any significant probability. China, in my estimation, will take action before NK develops the ability to deliver an A-bomb.
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