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Oxford don't issue sealed transcripts.what now?
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
twg wrote:
Okay, why would an Oxford grad need to come to Korea?


What the hell's wrong with coming to Korea??

Are people from Oxford graduates supposed to be immune from wanting to travel and work in other places? Not everyone who comes here is a Canadian looking to pay off student loans because they can't get a job at home.

Plenty of people who are here could be working in their home countries, but CHOOSE to come to Korea. There's lots of people working here who don't 'have' to be here. For example I know a lawyer who quit to become an English teacher. I know a guy with a full military pension who came here to become an English teacher. They're here because they want to be, not because they're running from something or desperately in need of the money.



I also say...why korea with an ox degree? You could be better spending your time more productively and enriching elsewhere. But...teaching English?! At least work for a reputiable korean company.
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twg



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
twg wrote:
Okay, why would an Oxford grad need to come to Korea?


What the hell's wrong with coming to Korea??

Are people from Oxford graduates supposed to be immune from wanting to travel and work in other places?

No offense to Korea, but there are better places to do it. And I don't deny the pleasure of the paid vacation that living here is, but using an Oxford degree to come teach ESL is like changing lightbulbs with a robot.

A futuristic robot.

With lasers for eyes.

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I also say...why korea with an ox degree? You could be better spending your time more productively and enriching elsewhere. But...teaching English?! At least work for a reputiable korean company.

What he said.
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Oxford Reply with quote

polonius wrote:
Not to nit pick or anything, but, if you went to Oxford, I am sure that you would know how to conjugate verbs. "Oxford don't issue sealed transcripts." It should read "Oxford doesn't issue sealed transcripts." Sorry, I don't mean to be a d1ck, but just thought it was funny.


Agreed! Normally I hate grammar police, but given your school and wanting to go slumming with us here in Korea, I'd have thought don't/doesn't got hashed out long before you even got to Uni.

Then again, it would be rather fun to have graduated from a Harvard and speak in awful English. Bush must have fun with it. Laughing
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stuey11



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: transcripts Reply with quote

I went through a similar thing last year

University issued transcripts but they would'nt use a sealed envelope or stamp it in any way (to prevent theft they said)

So i had to get new copies of my transcript sent in a blank envelope, then I went to the British Embassy, who in turn put me in touch with the British Council, they email my university directly to check it, then made up an official British Embassy letter to immigration telling them the degree was authentic.

Took this letter with the sealed transcript to immigration and they finally accepted it,

Get in touch with the British Council, they were really helpful and should be able to sort your problem out
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A poster on the first page said that you should go to the British council to have your degree authenticated.

Also, along with that, this might help too;

1. Go to the British Embassy in Seoul (if you come to Korea first) and get a notarized affidavid stating by the embassy that the degree is indeed British. Any official document from one of the embassies here might outweigh their regulations


I think with a British council athentication and an affidavid confirming its originality, you might not have any problems, as long as they have a number to call locally to verify the documents you are submitting

Anyway, good luck!
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dogshed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: Oxford Reply with quote

polonius wrote:
Not to nit pick or anything, but, if you went to Oxford, I am sure that you would know how to conjugate verbs. "Oxford don't issue sealed transcripts." It should read "Oxford doesn't issue sealed transcripts." Sorry, I don't mean to be a d1ck, but just thought it was funny.


The use of that "incorrect" verb tense shows an advanced level of fluency. The author knows it is technically incorrect but uses it to create very precise connotations. -Jeff
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dogshed



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jennateacher wrote:
Mu uni transcripts did not have a date, and just a regular Avery white sticker-the kind you can get any office suply place and stick in a printer. On the sticker it says "*****offical transcript***** Enclosed transcript becomes unoffical if envelope is opened" That is it, and immigration has been happy with them for the past 4 years. Do not call attention to it and they will probably not notice a thing.


Maybe we are confusing the word seal? In the US if you say you sealed the envelope that usually means you just moistened the glue on the flap and then closed it. For sealed transcripts a university might stamp across the edge of the flap with a rubber stamp or use a label as stated above. No wax seal or anything like that. I don't remember exactly what my school used when I picked one up at the university.

The last time I got mine throught the mail and I didn't open the outer envelope but I think inside the mailing envelope was another envelope that had the rubber stamp on it.

If Oxford mails the transcript to you I would assume they glue or tape the flap of the envelope closed. I would think if you do not open the mailing envelope this would count as being sealed.

On a side note when sealed transcripts are requested by an entity in the US they often want the transcripts to be sent directly from the University without passing through the graduate's hands.

-Jeff
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Dodgy Al



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
A poster on the first page said that you should go to the British council to have your degree authenticated.

Also, along with that, this might help too;

1. Go to the British Embassy in Seoul (if you come to Korea first) and get a notarized affidavid stating by the embassy that the degree is indeed British. Any official document from one of the embassies here might outweigh their regulations


I think with a British council athentication and an affidavid confirming its originality, you might not have any problems, as long as they have a number to call locally to verify the documents you are submitting

Anyway, good luck!



I went to the Embassy first, but they just told me to go to the British Council.
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Hyeon Een



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:

I also say...why korea with an ox degree? You could be better spending your time more productively and enriching elsewhere. But...teaching English?! At least work for a reputiable korean company.


Here's some possible answers for you:
(1) He wants to work for a while and save some money to travel the world. Teaching English in Korea offers a great way to do this before having to enter the 'real' job market. Where else could he save a good deal of money whilst still getting to live in an exotic overseas environment before he starts his way up the Korea ladder.

(2) Maybe the OP is interested in Korea and wants to work here. Even if he COULD get a job working for a 'reputable Korean company' maybe he wouldn't want to since it'd probably involve working 10 hours a day+ rather than the typical hagwan 4-6hrs a day.

Why do you think people who went to good Universities shouldn't work in Korea? You personally may not like the country, but a lot of us do. I, and a lot of other people on this board went to world-class Universities and made a conscious decision to come to this country. It isn't a 'last resort' for everyone you know. A lot of us are here because we want to be, not because we can't get employed elsewhere.

I've met Oxford, Cambridge, Princeton and other prestigious University grads here who are perfectly happy. My University is ranked more than 100places above the 'best' Korean University in latest rankings. I'm not here because I can't get a job eslewhere, I'm here because I want to be.

Anyway, for the OP, get your transcripts and put them in an envelope. Then lick the envelope and seal it. Then draw a squiggle/signature over the sealed part of the envelope. My uni transcripts were given to me in this way and they haven't been questioned yet. 'sealed' doesn't mean sealed with a proper wax seal, it just means verifiably unopened.
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