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cbclark4

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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: Should Japan have the NUKE! |
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"TOKYO (AP) - Japan has the technological know-how to produce a nuclear weapon but has no immediate plans to do so, the foreign minister said Thursday, several weeks after communist North Korea carried out a nuclear test.
Foreign Minister Taro Aso, who has called for discussion of Japan's non-nuclear policy, also asserted that the pacifist constitution does not forbid possession of the bomb."
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20061130/D8LN5I7G1.html
They have probably had the capability since the sixties. They have never developed the nuke, mostly because, well the don't like Nukes for some reason.
If Kim can have one why not Japan?
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thebum

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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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no, no one should have it. |
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Wrench
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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If the NORKS have them I think the Japanese should have them as well. |
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freethought
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Mommy!!!! Jimmy has the new Nike sneakers and I want them too!!!
There's some solid reasoning going on in this thread already.
I've been to Nagasaki, and standing at the hypo-centre was a very moving experience. The japanese could likely assemble a fully functioning, large payload bomb within 14 days if they were pressed, so it's not really a matter of them 'not having one', as that they have chosen not to build one, but can if they so choose.
Whether they should or not is a different matter. At what point does MAD cease to be an applicable concept? If there's any country in the world that likely has a legit need for a nuke (other than Israel) it's Japan. But the need or desire to have one does not mean they should. My assessment is that their current state of readiness is likely all they need. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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My assessment is that their current state of readiness is likely all they need. |
Well, that and the guarantee of the US nuke umbrella. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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As long as Japan is under the American nuclear umbrella, no problem. Canada could easily build its own nukes but we're quite safe 'n' happy under the American nuclear umbrella.
Of course, the question remains would America trade San Fran for Tokyo? The North nukes, say, Osaka. America's response would be to turn the Norks into a sheet of glass (assuming this would not destroy the economies of China, Russian, and South Korea with radiation and fall out). However, the Norks say "sure you can turn us into a sheet of glass but if you launch against us, instead of us striking Tokyo next, we'll melt down San Francisco." |
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Moldy Rutabaga

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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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I would not be terribly surprised if Japan has the bomb already and has kept it quiet to avoid an arms race; now the gloves might be coming off. These changes in Japan's military stance seem to have come awfully quickly...
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: |
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japans pacifist approach was fine before because the only nuclear power in the region, China was not threatening them.
Not the case anymore, they have a right to a detterent, and they are a responsible nation. Go for it I say. |
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Hollywoodaction
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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What makes you think they don't already have all the parts ready? |
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dulouz
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Ha Ha thats pretty funny. Commies nuking San Francisco. Life doesn't get any better. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: |
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dulouz wrote: |
Ha Ha thats pretty funny. Commies nuking San Francisco. Life doesn't get any better. |
No more Rice-A-Roni !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, the question remains would America trade San Fran for Tokyo? |
I think that depends on whether the president at the time is a Republican or a Democrat. Sodom and Gommorah (LA) have much stronger ties to one of the two parties, although recent Congressional sex scandals are blurring the distinction. |
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NAVFC
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
As long as Japan is under the American nuclear umbrella, no problem. Canada could easily build its own nukes but we're quite safe 'n' happy under the American nuclear umbrella.
Of course, the question remains would America trade San Fran for Tokyo? The North nukes, say, Osaka. America's response would be to turn the Norks into a sheet of glass (assuming this would not destroy the economies of China, Russian, and South Korea with radiation and fall out). However, the Norks say "sure you can turn us into a sheet of glass but if you launch against us, instead of us striking Tokyo next, we'll melt down San Francisco." |
Well luckily North Korea doesnt have ICBMs yet capable of such, and when they do itll be so few that our missile defense system will nock them out, especially if tis only one.
There are now 3 umbrellas in place to to speak, theres the interceptor missile system which as everyone knows hasnt had a good run in testing, theres the BMDS equipped Naval Vessels which so far are doing superb in their ability to shoot down missiles and the satellite based interceptors. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Wrench wrote: |
If the NORKS have them I think the Japanese should have them as well. |
You trust them? |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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NAVFC wrote: |
mindmetoo wrote: |
As long as Japan is under the American nuclear umbrella, no problem. Canada could easily build its own nukes but we're quite safe 'n' happy under the American nuclear umbrella.
Of course, the question remains would America trade San Fran for Tokyo? The North nukes, say, Osaka. America's response would be to turn the Norks into a sheet of glass (assuming this would not destroy the economies of China, Russian, and South Korea with radiation and fall out). However, the Norks say "sure you can turn us into a sheet of glass but if you launch against us, instead of us striking Tokyo next, we'll melt down San Francisco." |
Well luckily North Korea doesnt have ICBMs yet capable of such, and when they do itll be so few that our missile defense system will nock them out, especially if tis only one.
There are now 3 umbrellas in place to to speak, theres the interceptor missile system which as everyone knows hasnt had a good run in testing, theres the BMDS equipped Naval Vessels which so far are doing superb in their ability to shoot down missiles and the satellite based interceptors. |
Launch one nuclear ICBM and 12 dummy ICBMs. |
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