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[cbclark4]

"In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

O, Almighty God, bestow upon humanity the perfect human being promised to all by You, and make us among his followers.

Noble Americans,

Were we not faced with the activities of the US administration in this part of the world and the negative ramifications of those activities on the daily lives of our peoples, coupled with the many wars and calamities caused by the US administration as well as the tragic consequences of US interference in other countries;

Were the American people not God-fearing, truth-loving, and justice-seeking, while the US administration actively conceals the truth and impedes any objective portrayal of current realities;"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15952309/

This letter is rather long. How would you respond?
The next few weeks are going to be interesting.

Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

cbc

[cbclark4]

"Nov. 29: Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki postponed a scheduled meeting with President Bush"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15946832/

WASHINGTON - The independent, bipartisan panel studying U.S. policy in Iraq has unanimously agreed to a report that will call for a gradual pullback of American combat troops in Iraq but stops short of setting a firm timetable for withdrawal, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

The commission is to release its conclusions on Dec. 6 in a report that could help guide U.S. President George W. Bush�s conduct of the war.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15961338/

cbc

[Gopher]

[cbclark4]

"The Iranian leader, who wrote an 18-page letter to President Bush in May that Bush never responded to, said he was now writing to the American people in friendship because Iran and the United States shared a responsibility �to promote and protect freedom and human dignity and integrity.�"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15947213/?GT1=8717

It looks like Bush had his to respond chance last May.

It looks like Iraq will be selecting an Independent course.

It looks like occupation is bad policy.

cbc

[Gopher]

CBC: in diplomatic affairs, "not responding" is its own kind of response; it carries its own particular message.

If Ahmadinejad did not like W. Bush's non-response, perhaps he might try another approach.

As for his position as is, he is not really offering anything except the usual indictment which stops just short of accusing the Great Satan of being a plague upon the world. And this is hardly a good place to start negotiating with someone you have, for example, previously blackmailed over hostages.

And, before moving on to my last points, I guess I need to (re)stipulate that I, too, disagree with the Administration's policy in the Middle East, particularly the Iraqi War. But you should be very, very wary of getting out under such conditions that would leave Iran in an enhanced position in the Gulf.

Now to expand my response as one American to this letter: given previous talk from this regime, these words almost read like a threat to me...

[Ya-ta Boy]

I thought that was a fascinating letter. For several reasons.

It isn't often we get extended thought of any world leader without the filter of the media giving us a few sound bytes and then 18 talking heads telling us what to think. (Of course, if we lived in Cuba we could get 6 hour speeches, unfiltered.)

I have to go to class so I'll have to say what I think.

I was impressed with his clear distinction between government and people. He's better at that than some of the regular posters here.

In the first part of his speech, I liked how he tried to draw out similarities and commonalities of the two people. IF people read the speech, I think many will have a somewhat better impression of Iran than before. The effects of 25 years of seeing only bearded flakes in long robes ranting about the Great Satan on TV might be affected.

Gotta go.

[ddeubel]

[cbclark4]

[Gopher]

[cbclark4]

Well I can't agree enough in the simple fact the Iran aspires to be in a leadership position, the Throne of Persia, and all that.

The unity of the Moslem world or at least a large part of it will most likely start with Iran.

It seems to me that the slap that Malikki delivered to the US in the person of Bush is a true sign of at least some obstinate mood on the part of Iraq towards US policy. The recent diplomatic movement of Iraq between Syria and Iran would signify a warming up to the neighbors for comfort in impending "divorce".

Also with the statements and not so well hidden threats about the hundreds of thousands of Iranians, one may wish to ask what is the level of infiltration here? How high are we infiltrated? FBI, CIA, NSA, State Dept., DoD? Iran (and AQ) has not been dependant upon electronic intelligence; they rely almost totally on human intelligence.

Maybe some of these things are faints. Some could be signals to his underground in America. We know AQ has cells operating stateside, what do we know of Iranian cells?

Take out the Diatribe he wrote on Israel and look at the rest of his letter, yes, still very decisive but cunning in many ways. I watched the complete press Bush Malikki press conference the body language was scary very scary, I've never seen Bush that off balance.

cbc

[Bulsajo]

[Bulsajo]

[cbclark4]

Conversion is not necessary. The differences are based on differing traditions. OBL is Wahabi and has following from both sides of the religious fence. The unity will not be Religious unity, but a geopolitical unity. OBL in the flesh is no longer important. There are Sunni's in Iran not particularly oppressed, there are even Christians in Iran unsure how they fair as a minority.

There could be an Iraq United with Iran or there could be a seperate Iraq with Shiite overtones, there will not be any lovey dovey nonsecular Iraq, ain't gonna happen. The Kurds may have a neutralizing effect in the long run. Excluding Al Sadr and teh Madi Militia jsut will not work.

Yake the US out of the pisture in Iraq and I think Al Sadr will moderate himself when he has a satisfactory hold on the religious arm of the country.

cbc

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[bigverne]