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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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 Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: Israel Hagwon |
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So today I asked my kids about their after school hagwons. One girl said that she attends the "Israel academy."
I asked her why it was named that and she told me rather matter of factly thats its " because people from Israel are clever."
She even has a blue and white backpack with the Satr of David on it.
Just another nugget of ridiculousness brought to you by the people of South Korea. |
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Return Jones
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| What do students study there? |
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koreanalysis
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Foreign Ministry slams envoy's comments about 'yellow race'
By Charlotte Halle, Haaretz Correspondent
The Foreign Ministry on Friday condemned remarks by the Israeli ambassador to Australia in which he told Haaretz that the two countries are white sisters amid "the yellow race" of Asia.
"If the article is accurate, this is a grave and unacceptable remark," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement. The ministry said it will not return to business as usual if an internal examination confirms that the ambassador, Naftali Tamir, in fact made the comments attributed to him.
Tamir said that due to what he characterized as the racial similarities between Israel and Australia, the two countries should work together to enhance ties with other Asian countries.
"Israel and Australia are like sisters in Asia," Tamir said in an interview with Haaretz during a visit to Israel this week. "We are in Asia without the characteristics of Asians. We don't have yellow skin and slanted eyes. Asia is basically the yellow race. Australia and Israel are not - we are basically the white race. We are on the western side of Asia and they are on the southeastern side."
"Israel has not fully acknowledged the value of working together with Australia in Asia," Tamir said. "It's a way for us to cooperate with and enhance our position in the countries neighboring Australia."
In a meeting with Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni this week, Tamir emphasized the potential for developing trade and other links in Asia via Australia and the "necessity" that she visit Australia.
"One shouldn't take for granted friendships anywhere in the world," said Tamir, noting that "Australia is not lagging behind the U.S." in its support of Israel. "[Livni] listened very attentively and highly praised Australia," he said.
"Israel has a past and present in Europe, but no future," said Tamir. "Israel is a part of Asia."
Tamir said he did not raise the subject of reopening the Israeli consulate in Sydney during the meeting. The consulate's closure due to budget cuts some four years ago was fiercely protested by Australia's Jewish community, which later offered to finance its operations to keep it open.
"I am very much in support of reopening the consulate," Tamir told Haaretz. "But at the present time, due to budgetary limitations - which are even greater than they were before - it's simply not feasible."
A career diplomat who served in Tokyo, Washington, Strasbourg and as ambassador in Finland, Tamir is also Israel's non-resident ambassador to Papua New Guinea, Fiji and New Zealand, where Israel closed its embassy in 2002, also for budgetary reasons.
Though in Australia since January 2005, Tamir was only accredited in New Zealand a year ago, following the resumption of normal diplomatic relations between the two countries after Israel extended a formal apology for its role in the "passport affair." In 2004 two alleged Mossad agents were apprehended and jailed after attempting to obtain a New Zealand passport by fraudulent means.
Late last year, then-foreign minister Silvan Shalom announced that Israel would reopen its embassy in Wellington, but this has not yet happened. While Tamir strongly advocates reopening the mission there, other sources in the Foreign Ministry indicated that if New Zealand opened its own embassy here, things on the Israeli side might speed up.
New Zealand, which currently conducts its diplomatic contacts with Israel from its embassy in Turkey, has been frequently critical of Israel in recent years, although some commentators note this was slightly moderated during the recent war in Lebanon.
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/774471.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0611/S00138.htm |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Return Jones wrote: |
| What do students study there? |
I do hope you asked this question yourself, Beej, before sounding off on Daves. It's pretty crucial to any ridiculousness or otherwise. If the hagwon studies the State of Israel, or Jewish Studies, it would appear quite valid. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Hey, whenever I do religion in school I'm told three things:
1. I'm Christian, not Catholic!
2. Muslims are scary.
3. Jews are where they keep the Ligers at Everland. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| Return Jones wrote: |
| What do students study there? |
I do hope you asked this question yourself, Beej, before sounding off on Daves. It's pretty crucial to any ridiculousness or otherwise. If the hagwon studies the State of Israel, or Jewish Studies, it would appear quite valid. |
I did ask the question, and I guarantee you not too many elementary kids in Korea are studying Hebrew for their Bar Mitvah.
Its an all purpose hagwon: math, Korean, science. But you may have been able to guess that from her answer of " because Israel people are clever." She didnt say its called the Israel academy "because i study about the state of Israel."
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
3. Jews are where they keep the Ligers at Everland. |
Haha. That's right. Ligers are awesome. I hope I get to be a jew-kepper at Everland one day. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I was confused by this too, and even asked some of my co-workers "are there any Jews in Korea? Why is it called that?" and got the same response: that Jews are smart. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe I will move to Nevada and buy up the Mustang Ranch and rename it the Korean Ranch because we all know what Korean women are famous for. |
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jaganath69
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| To the OP, there is a certain fetishisation of Jewish paedogogy here in Korea. Being perceived as a group who are both educated and wealthy, it is seen as something to be emulated. I hope this answers your query. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| To the OP, there is a certain fetishisation of Jewish paedogogy here in Korea. Being perceived as a group who are both educated and wealthy, it is seen as something to be emulated. I hope this answers your query. |
I knew that. I know a Korean American family who bought their dry cleaning business from a Jew. He ran it all down to me how the jews started with nothing and now are rich... blah blah.
Doesnt make the Israel Acadmey any less ridiculous though.
Positive stereotypes can be just as damaging as negative ones. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| jaganath69 wrote: |
| To the OP, there is a certain fetishisation of Jewish paedogogy here in Korea. Being perceived as a group who are both educated and wealthy, it is seen as something to be emulated. I hope this answers your query. |
I knew that. I know a Korean American family who bought their dry cleaning business from a Jew. He ran it all down to me how the jews started with nothing and now are rich... blah blah.
Doesnt make the Israel Acadmey any less ridiculous though.
Positive stereotypes can be just as damaging as negative ones. |
Yep, completely agree. On another note, I wonder if this fascination is a result of the close geographic proximity of the communities in New York. Anyone have any ideas on this? |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Nazi themed Hitler bars and Israeli cram schools in the same country. Who woulda thunk it? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| If the hagwon studies the State of Israel, or Jewish Studies |
I'd be willing to bet quite a lot of money they don't. |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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If Jews are so smart, than why did Moses wander in the desert for 40 years and settle on the only piece of land in Arabia without oil?
I think that it would be nice if Asian countries actually did study something about Israel and Judaism. I am often asked questions like.."teacher why are jews greedy?" I cannot believe that the stereotypes are the only thing that most asians know about Judaism. |
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