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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject: Dion is a citizen of France |
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Dion is a citizen of France. The future PM of Canada will have citizenship, and thus loyalty to two different nations.
Should we care? Should he be required to renounce his French citizenship?
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Stephane Dion is the new leader of the Liberal Party. And he is a citizen of France.
Imagine the shrieks from the media if the Conservatives were to elect a leader who is a dual citizen of the U.S. He would be called a U.S. poodle at best or a spy at worst. Every time he opined on a subject, it would be scrutinized through the lens of Canada-U.S. relations. Everything from military spending to foreign treaties like Kyoto would be looked at through the question: Was the Prime Minister of Canada truly pursuing Canadian interests, or was his loyalty to his other homeland at play?
Even Michael Ignatieff, the second-place finisher in the Liberal contest, never took U.S. citizenship despite 30 years living there. It was chutzpah that Ignatieff, a de facto American, returned to Canada to lead us. But at least he had the sense to remain a Canadian, at least legally.
So what is Dion's excuse? The man wasn't born abroad, as was our other leading dual-citizen, Michaelle Jean. And at least Jean had the taste to renounce her French citizenship (after public outcry) upon acceding to the post of governor general. But Dion was born right here in Canada. Yet he is a dual citizen of France. |
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Levant_Ezra/2006/12/04/pf-2621199.html |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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At a guess, he probably, like me, has a parent who was born in another country.
Who cares? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Could be.
So, your position is "no problem at all"?
The Cons are going to milk this for all it is worth. Do you think the rest of Canada are going to be as glib about this as will die-hard liberal supporters? I think not. I smell a majority. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure how much mileage the Conservatives would get out this-- MacDonald wasn't born in Canada!-- and I doubt they would try. They might subtly play up the, "Isn't that nice-- ANOTHER Quebec prime minister!" angle.
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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His English is terrible too. I can't really see him connecting much with English Canada.
The Liberals were stuck with Ignatuff, who managed to open a can oh shite re: Quebec. Rae, who ran Ont. into the ground and never really explained how his views had changed, other than to say that they had. A last, they had Dion, a citizen of another country, and they picked him. Good on you all.
The Greens are looking mighty good now. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Slep was right, his mom is from France.
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Mr. Dion's mother, Denyse, was a real-estate agent. Born in Paris, she gave her children their dual citizenship; L�on Dion would joke he was the only one in the household to be solely Canadian.
(Mr. Dion does not have a French passport and has not voted in a French election, his staff says.)
"As far as I remember, I have always had a rather willful temperament," Mr. Dion once said in a speech. |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060901.wdion/BNStory/National/?pageRequested=all
He had better hurry and renounce it. It is wildly inappropriate for the leader of our country to have dual loyalties and responsibilities. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Dion is French? I think not.
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Bridging the era between late-'50s rock and the British Invasion, Dion DiMucci (b. July 18, 1939) was one of the top white rock singers of his time, blending the best elements of doo wop, teen idol, and R&B styles. Some revisionists have tried to cast him as a sort of early blue-eyed soul figure, although he was probably more aligned with pop/rock, at first as the lead singer of the Belmonts, and then as a solo star. Drug problems slowed him down in the mid-'60s, yet he made some surprisingly interesting progressions into blues-rock and folk-rock as the decade wore on, culminating in a successful comeback in the late '60s, although he was unable to sustain its commercial and artistic momentum for long.
When Dion began recording in the late '50s, it was as the lead singer of a group of friends that sang on Bronx street corners. Billing themselves as Dion & the Belmonts (Dion had released a previous single with the Timberlanes), their first few records were prime Italian-American doo wop; "I Wonder Why" was their biggest hit in this style. His biggest single with the Belmonts was "A Teenager in Love," which pointed the way for the slightly self-pitying, pained odes to adolescence and early adulthood that would characterize much of his solo work.
Dion went solo in 1960 (the Belmonts did some more doo wop recordings on their own), moving from doo wop to more R&B/pop-oriented tunes with great success. He handled himself with a suave, cocky ease on hits like "The Wanderer," "Runaround Sue," "Lovers Who Wander," "Ruby Baby," and "Donna the Prima Donna," which cast him as either the jilted, misunderstood youngster or the macho lover, capable of handling anything that came his way (on "The Wanderer" especially).
In 1963, Dion moved from Laurie to the larger Columbia label, an association that started promisingly with a couple of big hits right off the bat, "Ruby Baby" and "Donna the Prima Donna." By the mid-'60s, his heroin habit (which he'd developed as a teenager) was getting the best of him, and he did little recording and performing for about five years. When he did make it into the studio, he was moving in some surprisingly bluesy directions; although much of it was overlooked or unissued at the time, it can be heard on the Bronx Blues reissue CD.
In 1968, he kicked heroin and re-emerged as a gentle folk-rocker with a number four hit single, "Abraham, Martin and John." Dion would focus upon mature, contemporary material on his late '60s and early '70s albums, which were released to positive critical feedback, if only moderate sales. The folk phase didn't last long; in 1972, he reunited with the Belmonts, and in the mid-'70s cut a disappointing record with Phil Spector as producer. He's been recording and performing fairly often over the last two decades (sometimes singing Christian music) to indifferent commercial results. But his critical rep has risen steadily since the early '60s, with many noted contemporary musicians showering him with praise and citing his influence, such as Dave Edmunds (who produced one of his periodic comeback albums) and Lou Reed (who guested on that record). ~ Richie Unterberger, All Music Guide
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought she was anyway. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought she was anyway. |
She might become American soon because she lives in Vegas. My fingers are crossed. |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I have no issues with it. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| Dion is French? I think not. |
thanks, I needed the laugh! God damn there is too much puritanical self righteousness in this world........
What a poor excuse of a topic of political debate......as always, exclusionism at its finest from you know who, from whoville....
Good on us all!
DD |
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