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What is the best city in Korea to live in?
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madcap



Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Gangneung, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: What is the best city in Korea to live in? Reply with quote

This is my first post and I'm thinking about heading to Korea in the next several months. I've been looking at jobs in Sokcho and Jeju because I like the idea of beaches and mild winters. Sokcho also appeals to me because of the mountains and snow that are nearby. I was wondering if anyone had some other suggestions for good cities. I am looking for something on or near the coast and close to mountains or a national forest would be ideal. I am very outdoorsy and don't particularly like large cities (<300,000), though it would be nice to have a variety of bars to chose from when I go out. It would be nice to have a number of expats there as well because this is my first time teaching overseas and it would be nice to have a slower immersion. Anyone have some ideas/advice? Any good recruiters?
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cwaddell



Joined: 23 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm approaching the end of my first year in Ilsan, and even though it's been great in every way, I am also looking to satisfy my beach/mountain fetish for my second year.

This first year has also reaffirmed that I don't need Seoul to have a good nightlife, so I've no problems looking towards smaller cities and towns. If you can't make your own fun getting smashed and having a laugh in a few hofs, you must be pretty dull to start with. So ignore the cries of "If you don't live in/near Seoul you will die of boredom!"

I'm looking at the same places as yourself, Jeju-do, Sokcho, and also....look into Gangneung, which is sandwiched between Odae-san NP and some nice beaches. I went to Seorak-san NP recently, and the quick look I had of Sokcho looked decent enough. The beach is pretty good, it's a mere 15 minutes to the mountains (W10,000 taxi), and I bet there's enough drinking there to carve out some good fun.

The only thing I miss from home is a good live music scene. I'm sure there'll be feck all gigs in the likes of Sokcho etc, but you're hardly overwhelmed with attractive options even in Seoul (Hongdae occassionally), so I've came to terms with that being a bit of a closed chapter while I'm here.

So, I agree....bring on the beaches and mountains.
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TiGrBaLm



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Hubcap of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Takeshima... oops I mean Dokdo
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geoje Island
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul. Its got everything you need. I lived in a sattelite city before, and that was misearable. I have a friend in mopo who finds that harsh. simply put, you cant't go wrong with seoul.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
Seoul. Its got everything you need. I lived in a sattelite city before, and that was misearable. I have a friend in mopo who finds that harsh. simply put, you cant't go wrong with seoul.

Seoul Most Expensive City for Expats in Asia
Seoul leads the field in Asia due to a strong won coupled with overall price increases of local products and services. Following Seoul as most expensive city for foreigners in the Asian region were Tokyo, Yokohama, Kobe, Hong Kong and Taipei.
Chosun Ilbo (December 6, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200612/200612060021.html
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a city girl, so of course, I want nothing but Seoul all the way. After living in Seoul, I think every city is small, except Tokyo or NYC.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonicat wrote:
Seoul. Its got everything you need. I lived in a sattelite city before, and that was misearable. I have a friend in mopo who finds that harsh. simply put, you cant't go wrong with seoul.

I hear ya. I thought I'd die in Uijeoung-freaking bu these past 2 years. Every weekend I'd make the journey down to Seoul. I don't even want to think about the money I blew on taxis. Shocked
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean countryside depresses me. Seoul has enough parks and mountains to hike around if you're feeling too cramped by the urban setting.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you will find that you can't have both-- a small city and a good expat scene. There just are no amenities until you go to the bigger centres.

I discourage Jeju as a place to work. It still has winter and the isolation can get to you. As well, because it has prestige, conditions and pay tend to be poorer because of competition.

My first job was in Busan. Nice place. Lots of beaches, decent bars (if that's what you like), mild winter weather, mountain hiking, KTX train links. Rainy in summer and traffic from Hades, but again, you're not going to get everything right in Korea.

Ken:>
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bangkok, but it's not on the subway line.
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Demonicat



Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, yeah. Seoul has just took Asia's most expensive city for expats for the second year running, but really does that even apply. According to the survey that ran it they were testing for luxury goods and costly grocery items. I don't know about you, but it seems to me that that is more for the burberry and blueberry set that we are not part of. Seriously, living in Seoul can be expensive if your posh, or cheap if your not.
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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sokcheo and Gangnueng are both pleasant, medium-to-small size cities. Both are within easy access of the coastal beaches and hiking/skiing in winter. Gangnueng has a slightly bigger "foreigner" scene than Sockcheo and more bars to choose from. Chuncheon is also a nice place but further away from the beach.

I can't really recommend Jeju for the simple fact that getting off and on is a major pain if you are interested in visiting the rest of Korea (140,000 round trip ticket or 14-hour ferry ride). If that aspect doesn't bother you too much, consider Seogwipo over Jeju City, a bit more scenic and with easier access to outdoorsy activities but virtually dead in terms of expat activities.

Gyeongju and perhaps Yeousu might be two other places worth considering.
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Sina qua non



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyeongyang's pretty swank. There's running water and electricity for 12 hours a day.

Sometimes, a car even comes down the road.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: What is the best city in Korea to live in? Reply with quote

BigBuds said it all. Geoje Island is for you!
madcap wrote:
I've been looking at jobs in Sokcho and Jeju because I like the idea of beaches and mild winters. Sokcho also appeals to me because of the mountains and snow that are nearby... I am looking for something on or near the coast and close to mountains or a national forest would be ideal. I am very outdoorsy and don't particularly like large cities (<300,000), though it would be nice to have a variety of bars to chose from when I go out. It would be nice to have a number of expats there as well because this is my first time teaching overseas and it would be nice to have a slower immersion. Anyone have some ideas/advice?

You are EXACTLY, I mean exactly, a perfect candidate for Geoje Island. It has all the benefits you mention except for snow. No snow, basically. (I spent the last four winters there and it snowed exactly three times in all, and only once did it remain on the ground for longer than two hours, and even then it was melted by noon the next day). But there's a bridge to the mainland, and Geoje is only a couple of hours from Muju ski resort on the mainland, so you could be hitting the slopes by noon on Saturday no prob, as several of my students did in wintertime.

There's only about 300,000 people on Geoje Island and yet there's over 1400 foreigners, mostly Europeans!! because the main industry is shipbuilding with Samsung and Daewoo companies multibillion international operations. I have also met several Aussies. Tons of bars in Okpo, the second largest community on the island, near the Daewoo (DSME) shipyards. Shopping of food stuffs includes sour cream, several kinds of cheese, actual fresh cream, hungarian salami, and many other kinds of goods not usually found outside the biggest cities, and imported goods brought in by - you guessed it - the shipbuilders! The beaches on the island, especially in the southeast, are very nice to swim or lay around on for six months of the year, and the coastline is nice and refreshing, kept me rejuvenated for over three years, in fact, I just came back on the weekend from my fourth visit back there since I left for the mainland in April.

Dave's username captain kirk went down there for a month inbetween work contracts this year and hiked a lot. There's also an active archery club and get yourself a scooter and explore the ins and outs of Geoje, the second largest island in Korea.

Good luck whatever.
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