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mooncalf



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: How much should I get paid? Reply with quote

Here's the question:

I was recently offered a contract to work in a Hogwan 9am-7pm M-F with twenty 1.5 hour classes each week. (30 hours teaching, 50 total hours per week)

How much should I expect to be paid for this amount of work?

(I am a newbie with no previos teaching experience, no TEFL, etc.)

Thanks!
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hijack your thread, but I would like to ask the same question.

I have a BSc in Ecology, with Honours, and an MPhil in Ecology as well. I have a BEd. specializing in secondary education. I have two years experience teaching in Australian schools, I have taught math, computing, science, workshop and art.

However I have no ESL training or qualifications.

What sort of paypacket should I be looking at?

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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How much should I get paid? Reply with quote

mooncalf wrote:
Here's the question:

I was recently offered a contract to work in a Hogwan 9am-7pm M-F with twenty 1.5 hour classes each week. (30 hours teaching, 50 total hours per week)

How much should I expect to be paid for this amount of work?


10 hours a day at work? Are you crazy? Is that 20 - 90 minute classes or 20 - 80 minute classes? If it's the former, you should be making over 3.0m. If it's the latter, at least 2.5m. Seriously.
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey to the OP--ten hours is a long day for teaching. It gets pretty hard to maintain anything like a high energy level for that long...Id recommend you do it if they're paying a lot, like 2.4 (which is solid for a newb), but otherwise, don't take it. This can be a really rewarding and mellow job, but ninety minute classes are pretty hard to teach, I find.

And to the thread hijacker, the over-qualified Aussie one, I'd recommend you apply to Universities, and especially, to International Schools. If you work in a public school your talents will be wasted and you'll be underpaid; in a hagwon, exploited and underpaid. In universities, low paid but blessed with huge glorious amounts of Free Time.

In international schools, as far as I know, they give you presents every day and cut your toenails for you and make little plays and dances and sculptures in your honour. I heard of one place where after the one year contract the school gave not only a full bonus but also a lifesize gold-plated chocolate replica of the departing teacher. All the Oompa-Loompas sang, and it was beautiful, and Baby Jesus in Heaven cried 'cause it was so nice.
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Bukowski



Joined: 29 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooncalf,

As a newbie, you might want to check out some public school positions. Though they will only pay you 2,200,000 KRW per month, you can collect 400,000 for your housing allowance. Moreover, your hours will only be 20-22 per week from 8:30-4:30 M-F. Keep in mind, those are 40 or 45 minute classes, so you are actually only teaching 15 hours per week=66 hours per month.

The position you are looking at is very demanding. 220 hours of your time each month with 132 contact hours per month (that is exactly twice as many teaching hours as a public school position). Another important factor to consider, you won't have anywhere near the vacation a public school position provides (you'll get 2 weeks, public schools offer 6 weeks and up).

You do the numbers: 66 hours for 2.6 w/no housing, 2.2 w/housing
132 hours for ? (they won't be giving you 5 million!)

Swetepet says do it for 2.4, but I would disagree. Do you want to work 66 extra hours for 200,000 KRW? That's like 3.25 USD per hour!!! Way below the minimum wage Shocked

Good luck with your decision.

AC

http://www.cne.go.kr/images/engl/epic/epic.pdf
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not take that job for any reason. Being in a school for 10 hours a day is ridiculous (I beetch about my 8 hours...and it's WAY more than a need)
They only pay you for teaching which is less than HALF of the time that you are there (4hours teaching 6hours SITTING...you want to do that?)
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.4 for that job is too low, even for a newbie. get a TESL degree and after a few years you can make that in a public school. teaching 50 hours a week is insane. just dont do it, unless it is like 4.0/month. if money is that important, you can find other ways to make money. some people do private lessons, others do extra classes, others write books. whatever. but that is way too much of your time.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those sort of hours at a hogwan? I'd say no amount of money would be enough.
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