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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: OK to teach on an EXIT ORDER? (not a L.O.R.) |
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OK... I have in my hands an "Exit Order" not a "Letter of Release". The immigration office made sure to tell me that I have 2 weeks to leave Korea and took away my ARC. I am supposed to carry my "Exit Order" and passport with me at all times.
My Korean coteacher also told me that it is OK for me to work tomorrow with this EXIT ORDER... is this illegal or legal?
It seems pretty illegal to me, but the way this whole thing has progressed I wouldn't doubt if they just told me that to keep me at the school a bit longer.
I also just went to my future school to give them a copy of the order so that they can begin requesting my visa issuance number for their contract. The head honcho there also said that it was OK to work on an EXIT ORDER for a couple days, even a week if necessary.
Is there a difference between a Letter of Release and an Exit Order? |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: |
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hmmmm...seems like no would be the answer. I have no idea but it seems like your visa has been taken away from you. I wonder what would happen to you if you were caught teaching with an exit order....50 lashes or another exit order.....
I hope someone can answer this because I want to know, too. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Come on... somebody has to know. |
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the eye

Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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The exit order means that your Visa (period of sojurn) has expired. Therefore, no, it's not okay.
Check the expiry date on your ARC. If you are past that date, you are not legal. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:47 am Post subject: |
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the eye wrote: |
The exit order means that your Visa (period of sojurn) has expired. Therefore, no, it's not okay.
Check the expiry date on your ARC. If you are past that date, you are not legal. |
Immigration took my visa and issued me an EXIT ORDER. I am leaving my contract early after submitting my 30 day notice.
Therefore no ARC... no visa (?). |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Did you get fired? I'd tell them to get on the meat if that were the case. It seems to me that you had better cease or maybe face some very unfavorable circumstances. At least have them clarify it to you. Or to us, for that matter.. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
Did you get fired? I'd tell them to get on the meat if that were the case. It seems to me that you had better cease or maybe face some very unfavorable circumstances. At least have them clarify it to you. Or to us, for that matter.. |
I resigned. I gave them 30 days notice. My coteacher only had time to take me to immigration today, 2 days before my 30 days is up. The immigration office kept my ARC.
They made sure to explain that I must leave the country before 12/25/06.
As we are leaving my coteacher tells me that I have to work tomorrow. He says that if I carry the EXIT ORDER and my passport it will be OK.
I gave a copy of my EXIT ORDER to my new school and the manager there also said that it was OK to work a day or two, even a week if necessary on an EXIT ORDER.
It seems shady to me. I could be wrong.
Technically I still have the visa in my passport they only took my ARC.
I paid the key money on my apartment and doubt that I can get it back so I really want to be clear on this. If I get deported and miss my new job I will be very very p*ssed. |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Then call Immigration and ask them. Maybe you can get a straight answer (but then again, maybe not). |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Watch you don't get fined for not having your ARC (at the airport) when you exit the country. Better ask about that, if I were you! Be sure to get some sort of explanation in writing on why to don't have the ARC to submit to the airport authorities. Be sure not to take any "oral" reassurances from your employer...."oh, no problem, they will let you leave w/out hassle"! I believe the fine is 100,000 or perhaps 200,000 won. It's just the sort of "present" your school would love to give you on your exit, especially if you quit! And the local immigration dept might have very well suggested it.... 
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Ekuboko wrote: |
Then call Immigration and ask them. Maybe you can get a straight answer (but then again, maybe not). |
Right, I should have thought of this one already. Poet13 also suggested it.
I'll get my girlfriend to ask them also just in case they don't speak too much English.
Arggghhh.
Why can't I relax? |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003 Location: Inchon
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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First of all, yes, you can work on an exit order. While your visa is being cancelled, you are still here on some kind of visa, and require a sponsor. Otherwise, you'd be out of the country already. No visa= goodbye. "So you are still being sponsored by whoever was sponsoring you before", said the voice of experience, "and can continue working."
Second, don't ask for legal or immigration advice on this site. Why, you might ask? Well, look at all the people who answered in this thread with the "right" answer!! Cripes, only one person suggested you call immi and ask yourself. Next time, do yourself a big freakin' favor and head over to efl-law.com/forum. Get a real answer, not a bunch of useless crap. This kind of stuff is too serious to ask a group of newbies and trolls. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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inkoreaforgood wrote: |
First of all, yes, you can work on an exit order. While your visa is being cancelled, you are still here on some kind of visa, and require a sponsor. Otherwise, you'd be out of the country already. No visa= goodbye. "So you are still being sponsored by whoever was sponsoring you before", said the voice of experience, "and can continue working."
Second, don't ask for legal or immigration advice on this site. Why, you might ask? Well, look at all the people who answered in this thread with the "right" answer!! Cripes, only one person suggested you call immi and ask yourself. Next time, do yourself a big freakin' favor and head over to efl-law.com/forum. Get a real answer, not a bunch of useless crap. This kind of stuff is too serious to ask a group of newbies and trolls. |
I also emailed the immigration address provided at EFL-Law.com... I just hoped that somebody on Dave's had some experience with this issue once already and could offer me some piece of mind before I slept.
It is a serious issue to be sure and I do appreciate your advice, but this forum is a valuable resource for many people. Any answers I get on here may help someone else in the future.
Not just noobs and trolls.
A very valid point though. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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I would like to suggest that you ignore this thread until you call immigration tomorrow morning, BEFORE you go to work.
Then you can tell US what the law is...  |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:44 am Post subject: |
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poet13 wrote: |
I would like to suggest that you ignore this thread until you call immigration tomorrow morning, BEFORE you go to work.
Then you can tell US what the law is...  |
Yeah... I got really wound up about this. Very illogical.
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formerflautist

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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You shouldn't have any problems at the airport. I did it in July. I handed over my passport and my exit order to the guy at the ticket counter. He was confused so he called over his supervisor and then they worked it out. I had no problems with immigration. I can't help you with anything else so good luck. |
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