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Junior
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 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: All these graphs point to only one thing... |
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Population growth
This figure shows the ice mass loss in Greenland as observed by Grace over the period 2002-2005 measured in cubic kilometers per year.
natural disasters.
we're scr*wed. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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World GDP per capita:
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thats interesting mith. But what it basically shows is that humans are prospering in the short term because they suddenly found a way to massively exploit the earths resources. Kickback is the damage done to the earths natural environment, and how the effects of this are beggining to and will bite back fiercely in the future.
Let me hit you with these.
Nasa sea level rise.
with reference to the air pollution chart earlier, we have this:
And due to the degraded environment we have an increase in "natural" disasters.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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First there was Gulf War I and then Gulf War II.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I hereby christen this thread Graph War I... |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Junior, oh yeah? Well how about a lowest number of conflicts per capita ever graph?
And that's including wee little things like Azerbaijan (pssh), Moldova (whatever), and Western Sahara (ha!).
Compare that to the way things were before with a smaller population:
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
First there was Gulf War I and then Gulf War II.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I hereby christen this thread Graph War I... |
You on!
Where does the gopher fit in on this graph?
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Poppycock.
Wars had a good side. They kept the human population from advancing to levels which would devastate the earth.All the same..The 20thc saw the highest war casualties in earths history.
Iraq
Aside form wars, there is AIDS
cancer
And the world income gap has never been higher.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
| Where does the gopher fit in on this graph...? |
I do not fit on your graph, Leslie. I represent a unique management problem and have my own graph...
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Measurable Biological Goals (MBG) are the bench mark against which we will judge all of our regulatory and management efforts. FWC proposes basing the MBG for gophers on the criteria used to determine their State listing status. They propose that the goal for gopher management and conservation should be to achieve habitat and numbers of gophers that allows FWC to change their listing to the next less imperiled level. The goal is to improve the actual and listed status of gophers in Florida to ensure their long term survival.
To understand how this links gopher management to measurable goals, we have to understand the listing criteria. Florida uses a process based on quantitative measures and thresholds to determine whether species should be listed as Endangered, Threatened, Species of Special Concern or not at all. There are five criteria that determine listing status (see website for details). These are:
Declines in the past or anticipated in the future, even if the species remains abundant.
Found in, or restricted to, a very small or fragmented area.
A small number and also declining, or found in a small or fragmented area.
Extremely small numbers.
A mathematical calculation predicting extinction.
The current (2005) biological assessment of gophers indicates that only one of these criteria that can be applied to gophers-- declines in the past. It is not possible to accurately count or estimate the numbers of gophers but we can assume that if there is less habitat there will be fewer gophers. Estimating the area of habitat thought to be occupied around 1900 and currently indicates gophers have lost 65-70% of their original habitat. The thresholds for this criterion are Species of Special Concern<30% decline , Threatened< 50% decline, Endangered < 80% decline. Therefore gophers will qualify at the level of Threatened.
Our immediate Biological Goal is therefore to reduce the rate of decline to below the 50% threshold that would allow us to reclassify them as Species of Special Concern. (See figure 1.) |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
| Where does the gopher fit in on this graph...? |
I do not fit on your graph, Leslie. I represent a unique management problem
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Hehe... hawk belongs to the set big bird. Run little gopher!
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Problem D: Gopher and hawks
A gopher sits in a hole located at (xs, ys) and wants to get to a hole located at (xt, yt). The gopher can run at a constant speed of v m/sec. However, if the gopher is outside of a hole for more than a m minutes he will become a supper to hawks flying over the holes. Can the gopher make it?
The first line of input contains two positive integer numbers: v -- gopher's speed in meters per second and m -- the time after which the gopher becomes prey to hawks if he stays outside a hole. The second line of input contains two floating point numbers: the (xs,ys) coordinates of the gopher starting hole. The third line contains the (xt, yt) coordinates of the target hole. Each Subsequent line of input contains two floating point numbers: the (x,y) coordinates of a gopher hole. All distances are in metres, to the nearest mm.
If the gopher can make it to the target hole, the output line should read "Yes, visiting n other holes.", where n is the minimal number of intermediate holes the gopher has to visit. If the gopher cannot make it the output line should read "No." There are not more than 1000 gopher holes and all coordinates are between -10000 and +10000.
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Plans have long been in place to reduce the world's population ... to 500,000,000  |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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"I like to work on the landscaping around my house which also includes ridding it of pests like gophers and moles. Look at the two graphs below. One shows the seasonality of my gopher/mole catches and the other shows how many I've caught."
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Literacy and poverty have nothing to do with the OPs stats, what a bizarre response. The OP is not just saying "things are bad", and thus you are not offering a counter by showing us that "some things are good". We are ruining the environment, and its serious, and increased literacy aint gonna do anything about that, except very very obliquely if more people read about this issue and get involved... |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Plans have long been in place to reduce the world's population ... to 500,000,000 |
One of the more incredible statements I've ever read. Care to elaborate?
I want you to:
1) Provide sources
2) Tell me how I can be only of the 500mil.
3) Tell me how the Jooos aren't involved. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| increased literacy aint gonna do anything about that... |
I'll make you a bet. Next month's salary?
You choose any number of illiterates you want and I'll choose 25 literate people. Give the groups 1 week to come up with possible solutions. Which group is going to have the most workable ideas? (Your group can of course present their ideas orally.) |
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