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inseoul
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: anyway.... |
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no i didnt join just to hassle people.
i had other things in mind really.
just when i switch on the tv and watch the news, i still feel accute frustration at this whole iraq thing.
it really was a screw up right from the beginning, and idle middle class americans should take responsibility for the mistakes its "great democracy" makes. that is the very nature of the "greatest" they claim, or the "democracy" at least.
just heard washington will not make any decisions on policy until after the xmas holiday season which confirms my earlier staement that the study group is/was just a sideshow. and another 50 odd dead today, 70 in one bombing yesterday. and no, there is no responsibility taken for this by those in charge of the worlds greatest democracy.....not one statement expressing regret for the policies that have led to each and every one of those very violent deaths. just take a holiday break instead. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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just when i switch on the tv and watch the news, i still feel accute frustration at this whole iraq thing.
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Welcome to the club.
Personally, I lay the blame squarely at the doorstep of 10 Downing Street. If Blair had had any guts at all, he would have called Bush's bluff on the intelligence reports and refused to play along, which would have kept the Italians and Spanish out as well. With no Coalition of the Willing Bush would not have gone in.
Gulf War II: Yet one more failure of British foreign policy. |
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supernick
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Personally, I lay the blame squarely at the doorstep of 10 Downing Street. If Blair had had any guts at all, he would have called Bush's bluff on the intelligence reports and refused to play along, which would have kept the Italians and Spanish out as well. With no Coalition of the Willing Bush would not have gone in.
Gulf War II: Yet one more failure of British foreign policy |
That's right, but I think that Blair thought that Saddam would have given himself up.
However, America is much of a continuation of what Great Britain once was, and Blair knows full well that if it wants to gain some of its former glory, it would have to ride on the coat tails of Uncle Sam. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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just when i switch on the tv and watch the news, i still feel accute frustration at this whole iraq thing.
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Welcome to the club.
Personally, I lay the blame squarely at the doorstep of 10 Downing Street. If Blair had had any guts at all, he would have called Bush's bluff on the intelligence reports and refused to play along, which would have kept the Italians and Spanish out as well. With no Coalition of the Willing Bush would not have gone in.
Gulf War II: Yet one more failure of British foreign policy. |
Yes I agree somewhat. I felt sick watching lackey Blair running about helping Bush do his dirty work. And I think it's seriously damaged Britain's standing overseas. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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There is no "Military Objective" in Iraq.
The problem is entirely (and violently) political.
Occupation is not an exit strategy.
Collin Powell will be on "Meet the Press" this coming Sunday.
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inseoul
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: Powel |
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Can I watch Meet the Press on my basic cable service here?
I guess I dont need to blow the "I hate America" trumpet too loud, if there are a few half intelligent people here that I can sympathize with.
Anyone who ever thought this debarcle in the Middle East was anything to do with anything apart from energy security (and the massive associated value or having or not having control over it), is really not worth engaging with.
Anyone who cannot see the full circle of lies we have been fed, and are still being fed (with this new Baker report and the subsequent decision to break for Xmas before ruling on it) for what it obviously is (and obviously was to myself and many others from the beginning), is not playing with a full deck of cards. |
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johnanon1976
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Si Heung
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think the 2004 election pretty much was the peoples voice approving of the invasion, and the 2006 election was the peoples voice disapproving the occupation.
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The 2006 election is not a disapproval of the occupation, Americans have no problem occupying a country. It's an occupation that costs 1000s of US soldiers lives, billions of dollars and, horror of horrors, an increase in oil prices, that the American people disapprove of.
Shakespeare anticipated the American predicament:
I am in blood, s'epped in so far that, should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o'or. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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The 2006 election is not a disapproval of the occupation, Americans have no problem occupying a country. It's an occupation that costs 1000s of US soldiers lives, billions of dollars and, horror of horrors, an increase in oil prices, that the American people disapprove of.
Shakespeare anticipated the American predicament:
I am in blood, s'epped in so far that, should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o'or. |
Can you rephrase that?
I think what your trying to say is that the people approve of disapproving to ocuppy some oil?
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