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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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They claim it's for protection and prevent cyber-bullies, but what's really happening is that they are preventing foreigners from posting on Korean message boards/Koreans from reading the opinions of foreigners. |
that sounds ridiculously paranoid, but I will go even further!!!
They had the same thing in mind when they decided to make all korean email adresses to convert incoming emails from foreigners into immediate spam.
The more you look at things, the more you see korea trying to keep the outside world at bay. Especially when it comes to protecting their women from outsiders. they probably designed their English education system to make money for them without actually enabling korean women to communicate with foreigners.  |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
They claim it's for protection and prevent cyber-bullies, but what's really happening is that they are preventing foreigners from posting on Korean message boards/Koreans from reading the opinions of foreigners. |
that sounds ridiculously paranoid, but I will go even further!!!
They had the same thing in mind when they decided to make all korean email adresses to convert incoming emails from foreigners into immediate spam.
The more you look at things, the more you see korea trying to keep the outside world at bay. Especially when it comes to protecting their women from outsiders. they probably designed their English education system to make money for them without actually enabling korean women to communicate with foreigners. |
You've obviously never tried to send email or get email from a hanmail account.
As for the role of English in Korea....it isn't to talk to foreigners, or make jobs for foreigners as you suggest. It has more to do with protecting the status quo, making it difficult for poor people to enter the best universities and get the best jobs. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ...we would right about now be learning what it was, because it would have taken them this long to come up with an English version, not because they didn't have good translators and designers but because first off they would have believed that only Koreans were capable of understanding and using it, then the translators would have been chosen based on seniority and nepotism not ability, then the marketing campaign to sell, yes sell, the internet to foreigners would have been run by incompetents so no-one outside Korea would have understood what the hell they were talking about, and, since all content would be determined by the chaebol, there would be nothing on the internet of any interest to people outside Korea anyway, no wonderful worldwide library of shared information, no technologies to take advantage of peer to peer networking and file swapping, but an awful lot of cute icons and web graphics that, probably, would catch on big time with the tweens and teens, that's if the cooler parts of it were even made accessible to foreigners anyway, since, despite massive fanfare, predictions of a Korean-led world revolution in technology and information, and an economic explosion of growth as a result, the actual internet made available to foreigners would be a barebones user-unfriendly version, much slower than the Korean one, and the games graphics would suck, and naturally an awful lot of confusion would be caused by the bizarre nonsensical Konglish employed on foreigner portals, which would share with Korean ones a standardised design, of an admittedly aesthetically refined basic format, with no bright pink or lime green, yet, unlike the Korean ones, by contrast conspicuously cluttered in the final result, be remarkably plain and unappealing, that is, until some enterprising soul took it upon himself to sell his country's valuable copyrighted technology under the counter, starting a boom in illegal copycat entrepreneur wannabes, that would soon, however, be eclipsed when some Chinese or American or Indian got hold of the technology, revamped it, turned it into something (at first) wonderful and exciting, akin to what it is now, leaving the Koreans to sink once again into obscurity but forever able to mumblingly complain to themselves how they were robbed - and by foreigners! |
Without question this must be the longest sentence of all time!  |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| If Koreans had invented the Internet, they'd require national citizenship ID numbers in order to use it. That's a theory you can take to the bank. |
You beat me to it.
They claim it's for protection and prevent cyber-bullies, but what's really happening is that they are preventing foreigners from posting on Korean message boards/Koreans from reading the opinions of foreigners. |
Yes, very true. Imagine what the Net must do to Confucian thinking. Until I've proved myself, one knows how old I am, if I'm a guy, what my nationality is, or if I've had lunchie. Rather, you are what you make of yourself. On a site like this a young guy like billybrobby who knows the country and language very well and is obviously highly intelligent gets a lot more respect than an old fart like ... well I'll let you decide. People form opinions and make decisions based on logic and evidence. Reputation is no defence against the truth, as opposed to Korean libel law.
I find it hard to think of a single society that could be so threatened by anonymity. |
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numazawa
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| People form opinions and make decisions based on logic and evidence. |
Some rumors just seem to take on a life of their own.  |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| If Koreans had invented the Internet, they'd require national citizenship ID numbers in order to use it. That's a theory you can take to the bank. |
You beat me to it.
They claim it's for protection and prevent cyber-bullies, but what's really happening is that they are preventing foreigners from posting on Korean message boards/Koreans from reading the opinions of foreigners. |
Yes, very true. Imagine what the Net must do to Confucian thinking. Until I've proved myself, one knows how old I am, if I'm a guy, what my nationality is, or if I've had lunchie. Rather, you are what you make of yourself. On a site like this a young guy like billybrobby who knows the country and language very well and is obviously highly intelligent gets a lot more respect than an old fart like ... well I'll let you decide. People form opinions and make decisions based on logic and evidence. Reputation is no defence against the truth, as opposed to Korean libel law.
I find it hard to think of a single society that could be so threatened by anonymity. |
I'm not suggesting it's the original intent, but it certainly is one of the consequences of the system that is in place. |
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Bingo
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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If Korea had invented the internet???? Has Korea invented anything? Ever? For all their boasting Korea has yet to win a single nobel prize in science. Not one. The UK (a country of similar size) has won 47, and Germany 49. Dinky Holland with a whole five million people has won 11. Korea zero.
Let's keep things real here. The chances of Koreans inventing anything such as the internet are and were next to zero.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-nobel-prize-winners-map.html |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: If Korea had invented / created the internet . . . |
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I have to remind them, . . Uh, it was, afterall, invented, created, built, funded . . by the Americans. Uh, . .
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Oh no you don't! Give credit where it's due.
Tim Berners-Lee (an Englishman) invented the world wide web:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Bingo wrote: |
If Korea had invented the internet???? Has Korea invented anything? Ever? For all their boasting Korea has yet to win a single nobel prize in science. Not one. The UK (a country of similar size) has won 47, and Germany 49. Dinky Holland with a whole five million people has won 11. Korea zero.
Let's keep things real here. The chances of Koreans inventing anything such as the internet are and were next to zero.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-nobel-prize-winners-map.html |
Actually Holland has more like 15 million people. Since we're on-line, even if we were Koreans we could always go to a site that has accurate information about that and I wouldn't have to keep my mouth shut because you may be older than me and have a much more prestigeous education and job.
Yes, rumours on the Net can take on a life of their own but if you're careful not to jump on things for which there's no evidence you can avoid getting stressed out.
It's interesting how little time Koreans spend writing emails and messages on forums, isn't it? I wonder what the reason is behind that? They just don't like writing? No instant gratification? |
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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The first problem with hangul is that it takes a little effort to play with the browser to display hangul but the bigger problem is learning how to use the hangul keyboard. I did finally figure it out.
And I learned a few days ago that while the Chinese invented movable type using wood and clay it was a Korean that invented movable metal type.
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The first problem with hangul is that it takes a little effort to play with the browser to display hangul but the bigger problem is learning how to use the hangul keyboard. I did finally figure it out. |
It looks like you're not in Korea so I'm assuming the hangeul keyboard is different over there. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out what made it so difficult to figure out. Over here, you find the key with the character you want on it and you press it. Over there you...? |
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| dogshed wrote: |
| The first problem with hangul is that it takes a little effort to play with the browser to display hangul but the bigger problem is learning how to use the hangul keyboard. I did finally figure it out. |
It looks like you're not in Korea so I'm assuming the hangeul keyboard is different over there. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out what made it so difficult to figure out. Over here, you find the key with the character you want on it and you press it. Over there you...? |
I'm in Korea.
First I had to install something and then when I switch to the korean keyboard with my mouse nobody told me you had to hit another key to get hangul characters. The curser sits to the left of the syllable block and I didn't know how to start a new syllable. I now know to just keep typing and it will do it for me. It was a big mess for me. -Jeff |
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alpope23
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| If Korea had invented the internet, we would never be able to use it because it would not take an ARC number to register your account! |
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