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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: languages Reply with quote

inseoul wrote:
It is precisely because English is the language of the World that the Brits have such a lax attitude toward studying others.


Missed the op? "But English is the language of the world!" Crying or Very sad is small comfort when you've been passed up for the jobs listed in the article.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On French:

Most people don't like talking through their noses.

cbc
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
The Brits can't even speak English correctly how are they going to adapt to any second languages.

They've got too many dielects and you can't undrstand the accents.

They refuse to move their upper lip.

The Subcontinental Indians have less accents and dielect in English.


Before you start casting aspersions, it might be a good idea for you to clean up the multitude of errors you made in this short piece of merde.

When I was at high school, I was taught Japanese for three years and French for five years. French or German were compulsory for the first year and Japanese was offered to just a few classes. I was able to read novels in French and learning Japanese has helped me a little with Korean sentence structure. I can't believe that anyone could think that learning a second language would be a waste of time.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tell ya what,

I confess I had no idea modern languages at 14-16 were no longer compulsory. That's a quite idiotic policy. This the pro-EU Blair govt?

The Brits are already at a disadvantage in learning other languages for (a) having 6 other native Englishspeaking countries we can communicate with (obviously including the US) and (b) English is the most widely-used second language by far.

I'm bi-lingual of course....Anglo-Saxon and Norman French.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
I wish I'd been taught French in primary school. When I think of all that time gone to waste learning next to bugger all, when we could have been doing something useful. It would have been very cool to come out of it with passable French.


I was taught French from Kindergarten to grade 11 and I still couldn't have any kind of decent conversation really. Not until I studied in university and actually cared about what I was learning did I get really good. I also studied Spanish, it is soooo easy to learn.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Eddie Lizzard on Bilingualism. Bloody funny!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IzDbNFDdP4
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:

I'm bi-lingual of course....Anglo-Saxon and Norman French.


Don't forget to throw in some Old Norse, mate.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is perhaps not Izzard at his best...but still bloody funny for any of you francophones/semi-francophones out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1sQkEfAdfY&mode=related&search=
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
Privateer wrote:
I wish I'd been taught French in primary school. When I think of all that time gone to waste learning next to bugger all, when we could have been doing something useful. It would have been very cool to come out of it with passable French.


I was taught French from Kindergarten to grade 11 and I still couldn't have any kind of decent conversation really. Not until I studied in university and actually cared about what I was learning did I get really good. I also studied Spanish, it is soooo easy to learn.


Ah but if you hadn't acquired a 'base' during primary education, would it have been as easy to get good at it later on? Or get good at Spanish?

I'm thinking the answer is 'no', but if other people you shared the course with did just as well without any early French instruction then, I'll admit I'm wrong.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Yeah, as much as I love 'em, the Brits are woefully uni-lingual.


Mais pas moi! Je parle souvent francais! Aber ich spreche nur ein wenig Deutch...


Moi aussi

Je parle le francais
Hablo espanol
Ich kann auch Deutsch sprechen

Aswell as basic Korean, Italian and a bit of Portuguese and Polish.

ilovebdt
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
propaedeutic


words like this remind me I am still learning English. Smile

I do agree with you in regards to French. Perhaps Koreans should keep that in mind and have students "start" with Japanese or Mongolian instead of English.

According to my Japanese teacher, Korean is the most widely studied language in Japan. I think she was talking about at the university level but regardless of age or education level, I'm skeptical about that. She also has been living in the States for the past 10+ years and hasn't been in Japan since 1998, so she's not exactly the best source.
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