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When Animals Resist Their Exploitation

 
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: When Animals Resist Their Exploitation Reply with quote

When Animals Resist Their Exploitation

http://www.counterpunch.org/hribal12142006.html

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Two weeks ago, an orca named Kasatka intentionally grabbed and pulled her trainer underwater twice-nearly killing him in the process. Kasatka is a performer for Sea World Adventure Park, San Diego. She is one of seven orca entertainers at the Southern California park.


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Yet much more is happening at these zoos and aquariums than just production and profit, more than just performers, spectacle, and captive audiences. For Kasatka's action on that day was not a unique incident. It was the third such public act of violence involving herself. In 1999, she attempted to bite this same trainer during a show. He only escaped with all his limbs fully intact by quickly jumping out of the pool. After this event, Kasatka was sent, as stated by a park spokesman, "back for some additional training and behavior modification"-for in 1993, there was a similar bite-attempt. In fact, two years earlier, her father, a performer at Sealand of the Pacific in Canada, killed his trainer during a show. Resistance at zoological institutions occurs far more often than most people know.

The acts of resistance that often attract the most attention are violent forms. Arms are bitten off. Flesh is torn. Bones are crushed. Humans are killed. The most famous recent event occurred in 2002 in Las Vegas during a Siegfried and Roy show. Montecore, a 6 year veteran of stage, refused to lie down during a routine, and, when his trainer bristled, the white tiger clamped down on his arm. After being repeatedly hit on the head with a microphone, Montecore then grabbed him by the neck. His trainer would survive but only barely. Others have not been so lucky.



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The most common forms of resistance, however, are those particularly unspectacular in their methods. Cheetahs who refuse to do anything. Tigers who ignore commands. Elephants who fake ignorance. Orcas who rebuff new tasks. Gorillas who break equipment. Chimpanzees who throw their shit ("scatological humor," as zoo officials call it) at visitors. One researcher marveled at how skillful the monkeys at the Los Angeles Zoo were at hitting visitors with "clods of earth" from great distances. Then there was Stuffie, the first chimp ever produced from artificial insemination. Shot to death in 1987 while attempting to escape, she was infamous at the Toledo Zoo for holding milk in her mouth for hours on end: waiting patiently until her trainers came close enough so that she could spit it out in their faces.


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In order to see the world from Kasatka's perspective, three facts need to be considered. First, there are no recorded incidences of orcas "in the wild" attacking humans unprovoked. This is an institutional problem.


PS: I challenge anyone to tell me this thread is anti-American!
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting article. Thanks.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

acst of resistance Rolling Eyes

All your examples are from the US.
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i_teach_esl



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. i didnt even know. im never going to a zoo or sea world or wild animal park or anything of the sort again.

still working on becoming full vegetarian, tho. Wink
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wannago



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Re: When Animals Resist Their Exploitation Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
http://www.counterpunch.org/hribal12142006.html

Well, from a quality source like this, I'm so motivated to read it!


PS: I challenge anyone to tell me this thread is anti-American!


Why are you so anti-human?

Seriously, do you think this is another conspiracy? Now it's the animals conspiring against the humans? Sounds like another movie like...ohhhh...the birds, bees, killer rabbits, rats, they've all had their time. Wasn't it a Stephen King story where all the machines went anti-human? Now its animals. Wake up people! Animals belong in control of this planet, not humans! In know you just posted the article Big [gulp!] BIRD so I'm not holding you accountable for its contents. Wait...isn't counterpooch a British entity? Wink
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Junior



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When Animals Resist Their Exploitation


Oops! I thought this thread was going to be about dogbert.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like the Day of the Animals! Now there's a movie, boyee.

Wild animals are still wild animals. The only reason they're "trained" is trainers take their natural behaviors and reinforce them. There's no record of orcas attacking humans in the wild because when people see orcas in the wild they don't try to get on their backs and go for a ride or try to feed or pet them. We get away because we know they're big killers. Whale sharks are very gentle by nature but there are instances of them attacking humans in the wild when divers try to ride them or harass them in some way. Animals have an ability to be irritated. No biggy.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you post only about American parks? Wink

I read an article this week in one of my little kids English newspapers about elphants in Asia and Africa seeking revenge against human settlements.

Maybe its true?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that animal-rights is a serious issue. We might even potentially modify our behavior with respect to this or that.

But you might also want to reconsider your endorsing the article's choice of words and then clarify what your position is (and is not). Humans "exploit" animals. That is certainly true. The cosmetics industry especially comes to mind.

Know, however, that, ultimately, embedded or implicit in such criticism as you are participating in here (e.g., "animal resistance") is an environmentally-extremist, 12 Monkeys-style worldview that denounces the Neolithic Revolution (esp., in this context, animal domestication and labor) and indeed identifies human beings themselves as the problem. (Not to mention that it also ascribes a consciousness and global awareness to animals that may not even exist, dolphin and chimpanzee intelligence notwithstanding, thus anthropomorphizing and even giving the art of politics to animals.)

Is that how far your criticism goes, Big_Bird? If not, clarify your position. Mindmetoo's post might even serve as a clue to get into the actual issue this story presents -- that is, before your source politicized it.

And, in any case, if I were looking to expose and attack those who cruelly exploit animals, circus-style, I might start with Thailand's elephants, the starving ones we see walking Bangkok's streets where their handlers prey on our sympathies for them for a few baht. That is, there are far bigger fish to fry tha Sea World...
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

Is that how far your criticism goes, Big_Bird? If not, clarify your position.


I will certainly write some comments about this issue later...when I have more time.
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that on Discovery Channel?
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