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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Maybe some of these so-called artists just take themselves a little too seriously. If they weren't being funded by mummy and daddy and had to work for a living like the rest of us, then maybe they wouldn't have the time to be so *beep* melancholy all the time.

Thats an interesting definition of an artist. So I guess the fact that I lived away from home and supported myself as a professional musician for ten years means I was not actually an artist. Thanks for clearing that up...
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re:cursive



Joined: 04 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Maybe some of these so-called artists just take themselves a little too seriously. If they weren't being funded by mummy and daddy and had to work for a living like the rest of us, then maybe they wouldn't have the time to be so *beep* melancholy all the time.

I've been living out of home and fully supporting myself since I finished high school...granted I did recieve some money from the government while I was studying. I went to uni in the morning, worked factory jobs in the afternoon, and did my art at night and on the weekends. After graduating I had to work a full time factory job and part-time delivery job to survive (not many jobs for graduating artists where I come from).

I can't think of any artist I know (and I know a fair few) who are funded by their parents. Most are either self supporting, on government benefits or are funded by grants and/or contract work.

I wonder where you've encountered these artists?
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at some of the crap they call art today. Wouldn't you want to whack yourself if people knew you had actually spawned a piece of crap that you had the audacity to pass off as art?

Depression and artists is its on version of darwinian selection. The real screw balls weed themselves out via drugs, alchol, and hanging themselves in the crapper. Their art becomes famous to the intellectual morons who cut down jillions of trees to publish their shite magazines about intellectual crap that no one cares about except for them, and a bunch of dead losers.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You talkin' ta me? (self-proclaimed greatest expat artist in Korea...)

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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need a rope?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, - just a clever, crafty agent who knows how to bribe/blackmail some influential art critic(s) ...
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Stupidity breeds contentedness. The higher your IQ, the unhappier you are.


Cogito ergo doleo -- I think therefore I am depressed. Crying or Very sad
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shapeshifter



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Location: Paris

PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: confused Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Because artists feel more pain, they can transform their stuggles into art with more heartfelt meaning.

I know a lot of artist who are extremely happy people, though, and to think an artist is prone to depression is a flawed stereotype. In the world of depressed people, an artist is going to be more expressive about pain than the non-artist, but that doesn't mean artist are more prone to pain.


I don't mean to pick on you but what you've written is strangely contradictory. You begin by saying "artists feel more pain" and end, only 4 lines later with "that doesn't mean artist[s] are more prone to pain".

I'm genuinely curious as to how it's possible to get so muddled so fast. What were you trying to say here?

Thanks
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