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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:41 pm Post subject: The Wire Season two |
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I have, figuratively, been watching this season for about five years. But I still have five more episodes of the second season of The Wire to get through; such a long, arduous affair. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Then don't watch it?
I loved The Wire. I only saw it a few years after it finished and marathoned the whole thing in a couple of weeks. It has some of the most memorable characters ever written. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:30 am Post subject: |
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It took me all of about a week to watch all seasons. Omar was the best. |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Best TV show ever done bar none. Omar has to be the best character ever written, so many levels to him. My personal favorites were Stringer Bell and of course Bunk
I had a problem with season 2 at first because I didn't watch season 1 first. Do that watch them in order and you won't get off your couch until you finish all 60 episodes |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say it is the 3rd best season of the wire. My unsolicited ranking:
1. Season 4
2. Season 1
3. Season 2
4. Season 3
5. Season 5 (but to its credit, ended the show well)
Even though I put season #4 at the top, I've only watched it once. More painful than the other 4 seasons. I've watched seasons 1-3 a few times.
I wouldn't disagree with any other rankings, except putting season 5 any higher. It clearly was the weakest one. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly the same ranking as Bucheon bum.
Though the gap between each season is pretty small.
I might put 2 ahead of 1.
I think I've watched through 1-4 about three times. Season 5 just the once. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Watch the BET version of season 2. Skips the whole docks snooze fest.
I'm going to disagree with some here and say that the Wire was good, but Homicide: LotS and The Corner were better. Virtually all of the cops' characters were overdone and at times overacted and seemed so typical. Unless the show was dealing with the projects, I would just zone out unless Bunk Moreland was on. It was all about the Barksdales, Stringer, Prop Joe, Omar and so on. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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The dock workers story arc was what I enjoyed most about season 2. It fit perfectly into the theme of the decline of the city. The death of industry etc.
And Ziggy got his duck drunk.
Also the schools arc in season 4 didn't involve any of the aforementioned characters and was one of the best things in the whole show.
Steelrails wishes he was black. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Qonny wrote: |
The dock workers story arc was what I enjoyed most about season 2. It fit perfectly into the theme of the decline of the city. The death of industry etc.
And Ziggy got his duck drunk.
Also the schools arc in season 4 didn't involve any of the aforementioned characters and was one of the best things in the whole show.
Steelrails wishes he was black. |
I gave the docks an honest shot and it was just a big yawn. It's like in Boardwalk Empire where you're going from Capone or Rothstein over to Margaret Schroder babbling about some nonsense.
And it isn't a black thing. Most of the black cops were awful. Greggs the lesbian cop, Daniels overacting, Lester Freamon aka a Morgan Freeman rip off, etc.
The projects were compelling TV, the police were just a typical dumb cop show that you'd see on NBC. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
Watch the BET version of season 2. Skips the whole docks snooze fest.
I'm going to disagree with some here and say that the Wire was good, but Homicide: LotS and The Corner were better. Virtually all of the cops' characters were overdone and at times overacted and seemed so typical. Unless the show was dealing with the projects, I would just zone out unless Bunk Moreland was on. It was all about the Barksdales, Stringer, Prop Joe, Omar and so on. |
The Corner is a mini-series and focuses almost entirely on the users. Very different than Homicide and The Wire.
As for Homicide vs. the Wire, you say the latter was typical? A big chunk of season 1 of Homicide is complete crap and pretty much fits the stereotype of a police drama on network TV. The show gets better, but I thought it was one of the more overrated shows. Not bad, but not that great either (minus Andre Braugher). |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:06 am Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
As for Homicide vs. the Wire, you say the latter was typical? A big chunk of season 1 of Homicide is complete crap and pretty much fits the stereotype of a police drama on network TV. The show gets better, but I thought it was one of the more overrated shows. Not bad, but not that great either (minus Andre Braugher). |
Really? I thought season 1 of H:LotS was one of the best. Seasons 1-4 were good when they had Jon Polito and Ned Beatty. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: |
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The Wire would lose a lot of its meaning without the second season. You need the docks in order to make the point that David Simon was trying to make. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
Qonny wrote: |
The dock workers story arc was what I enjoyed most about season 2. It fit perfectly into the theme of the decline of the city. The death of industry etc.
And Ziggy got his duck drunk.
Also the schools arc in season 4 didn't involve any of the aforementioned characters and was one of the best things in the whole show.
Steelrails wishes he was black. |
I gave the docks an honest shot and it was just a big yawn. It's like in Boardwalk Empire where you're going from Capone or Rothstein over to Margaret Schroder babbling about some nonsense.
And it isn't a black thing. Most of the black cops were awful. Greggs the lesbian cop, Daniels overacting, Lester Freamon aka a Morgan Freeman rip off, etc.
The projects were compelling TV, the police were just a typical dumb cop show that you'd see on NBC. |
Of course it was a yawn for you. It chronicled the decline and destruction of the non-educated middle-class, i.e. the destruction of the union as a potent political force. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Plain Meaning wrote: |
Of course it was a yawn for you. It chronicled the decline and destruction of the non-educated middle-class, i.e. the destruction of the union as a potent political force. |
The characters and actors portraying them were not compelling. The story felt detached from the world that had been established. Like I said, it was like Margaret Schroder's storyline in Boardwalk Empire. It may have been an important part of the landscape, but the way it was done was uncompelling and borderline tedious. Maybe I'll give it a second try. It might grow.
Anyways, boy some of you are making this personal. We're just talking about a TV show that we all watched. |
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Qonny
Joined: 28 Oct 2014
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
Plain Meaning wrote: |
Of course it was a yawn for you. It chronicled the decline and destruction of the non-educated middle-class, i.e. the destruction of the union as a potent political force. |
The characters and actors portraying them were not compelling. The story felt detached from the world that had been established. Like I said, it was like Margaret Schroder's storyline in Boardwalk Empire. It may have been an important part of the landscape, but the way it was done was uncompelling and borderline tedious. Maybe I'll give it a second try. It might grow.
Anyways, boy some of you are making this personal. We're just talking about a TV show that we all watched. |
You didn't find Frank Sobotka compelling?
Of course it's all subjective, but I really disagree. I will say the lady cop at the docks (Amy Ryan) rubbed me the wrong way. Didn't like her character. Other then that, it was a great part of the story with some great characters. |
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