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Women: Do you feel fat in Korea?
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
. Where do you come off assuming all women who wear a size 10 are overweight?


that's just common sense, because the only other input factor that's missing is your height.

at an average women's height, at size 10, you're overweight, though it may only be slightly so if you're especially big boned and athletic and/or just have one of those body shapes.

but you're either on the cusp... or over it.

to me, 10 is the cusp, basically.. and I'm one of those guys who likes curves, except I'm old school in the definition of curves... meaning hanging cellulite is NOT a curve, except in pectoral and gluteal regions.

http://images.google.co.kr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bodyscan.human.cornell.edu/feature_bodyscanner/img/clothing_process/01_05_tryon.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bodyscan.human.cornell.edu/scene26a9.html&usg=__O7Ba4V17A2urE2Nm3jG9_0fWXu4=&h=300&w=460&sz=32&hl=ko&start=2&tbnid=CT9KHnbyOSwN_M:&tbnh=83&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsize%2B10%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dko%26newwindow%3D1


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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about a US size 10, an Aussie size 10 or a UK size 10?

They're all different. Certainly if you think a UK size 10 is fat, you must be out of your mind.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm talking American size 10.

this is a UK based ad, apparently, so I'm assuming they're talking US sizes?

http://images.google.co.kr/imgres?imgurl=http://s7v1.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/000012074%3F%24product%24&imgrefurl=http://www.burningahole.co.uk/buy/125/&usg=__nnjGWoWRgXGfWvqSwO0Ve6DnDOU=&h=397&w=298&sz=11&hl=ko&start=3&tbnid=5lSzzfPV9FJTHM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsize%2B10%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Dko%26newwindow%3D1

if the dress is indeed size 10, and the model wearing it is size 10, she looks fantastic.

http://s7v1.scene7.com/is/image/JohnLewis/000012074?$product$
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm sure these size 10s are pretty torn up about whether you find them to your liking or not.

Pollyanna McIntosh:

"Scots model Pollyanna made herself sick trying to stay a size 8. Now she's a healthy and happy size 14 superstar"

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16186540&method=full&siteid=66633&headline=my-big-break--name_page.html

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1717573/resumephotos

Beyonce:

http://mrsgrapevine.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beyonce_drobe.png

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Beyonce-wallpaper-beyonce-86905_1024_768.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/features/2007_swimsuit/images/photos/07_beyonce_10.jpg

http://how-much-does-beyonce-weigh.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/beyonce_weight.jpg

http://woodenspears.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/how-much-does-beyonce-weigh.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/stylewatch/blog/070122/beyonce_knowles_300x400.jpg

Vida Guerra (not a size 10, but "unconventional" body type - read "not white Anglo-Saxon")

https://secure16.rwasphost.com/supersignme/uploaded/radB5144144549.JPG

http://www.hiphoprx.com/wp-content/gallery/00-single/Vida_Guerra_5.jpg

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/24/97/11415_20070719-vida-guerra-ass-1_122_535lo.0.0.0x0.500x692.jpeg

http://media.photobucket.com/image/What%20size%20is%20Vida%20Guerre/revmyspace2/graphics/entertain/actress/VidaGuerra_BlackMen_Swimsuit_11.jpg

Whitney Thompson:

http://www.nypost.com/tv/galleries/05152008_top_model/photo01.jpg

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/plusmodelradio/2008/10/14/Americas-Next-Top-Model-Cycle-10-Winner-Whitney-Thompson-on-Episode-15

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2008/news/080602/whitney_thompson2.jpg

Johanna Dray "Too Fat for Fashion":

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1114/812655463_919e6bfde0.jpg?v=0


And on and on ...
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post - very, very slow internet.

Now tell me again - why are these women supposed to please YOU?

(YOU as in the collective haters on this site, rather than anyone in particular).


edit added: oh yeah - one other. She's a size 6 but over 40-yrs-old, hahaha.

http://askamakeupguru.com/blog/uploaded/monica_belluci_56_1.jpg
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Janny



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By Korean standards, I am fat.
By Canadian standards, I'm just fine.

So the moral of the story is......there are no rules.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

livinginkunsan wrote:
For the record, I love women.. just not heifers Smile


TOS=Terms of Service. The post above does not equal TOE=Terms of Endearment. It's kind of interesting how folks use words such as heifers, but we don't have the equivalent term for males out there. Perhaps, some of the femmes out there may find it sexist. Anyway, it doesn't seem TOS friendly. Had you said, I just don't like women who are overweight and left it at that, it would have been fine, man...
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janny wrote:
By Korean standards, I am fat.
By Canadian standards, I'm just fine.

So the moral of the story is......there are no rules.


I think most guys here would agree "Korean standards" are ridiculous.

on the other hand... when I hear "Canadian standards" or "American standards".. I get REALLY suspicious Smile

are we talking like pre 1975 standards.. before the super size me society, when people in North America still looked more or less like people?

or today's blubbery masses??? (some of whom claim that the blubber makes them ahemm.... "healthy"?)
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AmericanExile



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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
or today's blubbery masses??? (some of whom claim that the blubber makes them ahemm.... "healthy"?)


It doesn't make you healthy, but it also doesn't make you unhealthy. Although the body does require some fat to be at peak health. In fact, women cannot get pregnant without fat. The amounts required for good health is not so much that it would cause you to think of a person as fat.

There was a point in the history of medicine when being overweight was believe to cause a number of health problems. There were no studies that showed that to be true. It was assumed true. This became controversial, so studies were done. Study after study came back without a causal link between being overweight and diabetes or heart disease or whatever. No causal link. Many doctors still tell their patients that being overweight is bad, but that is changing. What smart well informed doctors now tell patients is to eat right and be active. The fact is a person who is overweight but is active has better core health than someone who is not overweight but is inactive.

People resist this idea because for so long we were told that being overweight is inherently bad. Doctors were just wrong as they have been about other things. How many decades did doctors insist menopause was in women's heads?

Think about it from an evolutionary standpoint. Fat is energy reserves. Humans evolved out of a world where the next meal was uncertain. Carrying fat was good. The human body has evolved to carry significa