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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hell, I learned a valuable lesson on a smaller scale today about riding bicycles on wet and busy roads with a cigarette. Of course it's idiotic, but what's done is done, and I know better next time.


I saw that this morning. You went done pretty hard. How are you feeling?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
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Hell, I learned a valuable lesson on a smaller scale today about riding bicycles on wet and busy roads with a cigarette. Of course it's idiotic, but what's done is done, and I know better next time.


I saw that this morning. You went done pretty hard. How are you feeling?


Better now, but I messed a few ribs up nice and good. Cell phone LCD was trashed, too.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lord almighty, Firstly...Homer, get off my case pal, i couldn't give two stuffs about your or anybody else's current/past financial situation. As it so happens, i do have just enough money to leave should need be. Whats with all the sanctimony?, why do you feel the need to berate me when all i'm asking for is some advice?. I wouldn't change anything i've done in my time here, it's been a ride. That's not to say that i haven't learnt a lesson but anyways how i choose to live my life has absolutely nothing to do with you so butt out.


Zyzyfer, I'll owe you a beer next time i see you at whatever bar i see you at.
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coldcrush



Joined: 02 Apr 2004
Location: melbourne.... Posts: 1

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Words


What this negro said.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rawiri,

I am not on your case buddy...calm down.

I was involved in a side discussion and voicing my opinion. No need to take things so personally.

I do not care how you live your life, even more so because I never met you and never will.
I did say I hoped you would wiggle your way out of this mess you landed in....
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So rawiri, in the clear or up to your neck?
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fusionbarnone



Joined: 31 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hope" your boss explains the situation to immi for you. Have you contacted EFL-Law.com about your predicament? They are quick and forthcoming on needed advice(especially the emergency post section. I think your situation qualifies). Best to consult with professionals who are knowledgeable about Korea and legalese pertaining to the peninsula.

Regardless of how "others" may opinionate/preach/moralize/in hindsight spiel etc, this(your situation) should be looked at as a forerunner of what could befall "others" as a result of reinforced procedural changes(the immi. boys have been jabbed up their collective derriers to actually get off their hind-quarters and show results before lunchee).

It is going to be interesting how many ESL teachers are still in Korea once credentials are verified(whilst gainfully employed over time;days, weeks, months). That is soon coming. You have no problem as you have recognized/verifiable credentials(albeit late in arriving contributing to your current detriment).

It is also going to be interesting to see how many ESLers will be compromised once they consider changing jobs at the end of their contracts or, because they may have had to due to "unexpected" circumstances at the H.

The speed it may take unis to supply transcripts(if they refuse; transcripts are lost,etc) , the time-lapse "between" jobs(pushy "reassuring" directors; unspecified waiting, etc) will undoubtedly "influence" a few ESLers to cross the line too.

In addition, being between jobs means finding accom whilst limbo-ised, how many could bear a goshiwon, yogwon, etc for an unspecified time,? Everyday expenses for an unspecified period could also seriously empty the won-piggy, da?

With immi being pushed by an embarrassed govt.(K orea at 198th in the latest international Toeic????) to recover/save face(looking for scapegoats i.e, ESL teachers representing the politically disenfranchized and economically vulnerable), many more ESLers are likely to find themselves in like situations or, as victims of circumstance due to misplaced confidences.

Anyone can be smug when things are working out fine but, this is Korea and one can never be sure when one is about to be surrounded. I've seen people (married with K-wives, uni jobs, and a cat) find themselves between a rock and a hard place once their "safe" job tree was "shaken". It was not pretty.

The next few months are going to be interesting.

Rawiri, keep us informed, and all the best for a satisfactory resolution to your present predicament.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: he never gave any real information Reply with quote

Have you noticed that people will post about being busted by immigration and then they never usually say what happened at the end. I think that they are not allowed to talk about it if they stay in Korea. The people kicked out of Korea always talk about it, but the people who are able to stay never mention exactly what happened.

They post the first scared message and then they never come back. I think it is usually not so serious in the end for some people, but they can't talk about it.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: why call it immigrations Reply with quote

One more thing...

Why do they call it immigrations when it is an organization and should not be plural? Only koreans make that mistake again and again.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
Hagwon Muppet wrote:
BJWD wrote:
hellofaniceguy wrote:

I'll turn in illegal teacher's in a heartbeat. Even quicker.


You are a clown.

Didn't your mother ever tell you to MYOB?


So if you saw someone stab someone in the street you wouldn't report it to the cops? Fair enough if thats the way you want to live your life.

Different people have different opinions on where the line is drawn with respect to breaking the law.

It always amazes me that ESLers think they are above the law because they have a BA in Needlepoint and can speak (some) English.

In this case I can sympathise with the OP but I can also see where the other posters are coming from. Working illegally would not be tolerated in your home country so why should you think you can get away with it here???

The steady flow of illegal teachers also helps to perpetuate some of the shadier practices in the ESL industry that we would all like to have stopped.... why not just fire the teacher in the 11th month to save severance, I can pick up an illegal tomorrow to replace him? Why bother paying airfare for a legit teacher when this guy is already in Korea and doesn't want me to fly him to Japan?

Its all part of the same *beep* stick that ESL gets hits with.


So, you compare teaching some children while your status is in limbo to a street stabbing. Rolling Eyes


Yes, that is exactly what he does.

He should not be allowed out of the house without an escort... Someone to help him tie his laces and hold his hand while he makes mundane decisions.

In fact, with his critical reasoning skills being inferior to that of a sleepy duck, I am left wondering if he isn't here with a fake degree. I should report him to that Adonnas (sp) fool so that he may be punished comparable to a violent thug (as per his suggestion).
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, here's why the comparison is ridiculous: how many mothers ask people to come over and stab their kids, saying that it's okay because everybody does it?
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rnrpaulsen



Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Location: Cheongju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so does anyone actually know what happened with this situation? Did he get kicked out? Fined? Jailed? Mysteriously evaporated? Turned into a somehow more repulsive variety of kimchi?
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coldcrush



Joined: 02 Apr 2004
Location: melbourne.... Posts: 1

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rnrpaulsen wrote:
so does anyone actually know what happened with this situation? Did he get kicked out? Fined? Jailed? Mysteriously evaporated? Turned into a somehow more repulsive variety of kimchi?
Rawiri was completely exonerated. The Korean government gave him a street parade in Seoul. He was climbing an overpass to give a thankyou speech to the masses when a Seoul bus jumped the curb and crushed him to death. It was the old kind of bus, before they changed the bus colours.

Hope this helps.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What up people?, just dropping a line to let you know that i'm back and i'm legit. The one thing i've learnt regarding the korean immigration system is that nothing is a certainty, you never really know whats going to happen when running up against these guys, could be good, could be shite.

ALSO!!!!! Beware of EXTREMELY paranoid people over here regarding immigration laws. On this forum and in person i have met people who have no idea what they are talking about but want to contribute none the less to look good or whatever.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to have you back! Hope you ahve better luck this time!
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